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Old 02-11-2021, 11:36 AM
 
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And what is Europe's choice anyway - covid ridden country where they hate whites fanatically (America) vs country where everything revolves around oil and where people are unafraid of heights (Russia). Meanwhile you have Huawei, Xiaomi, most and the best 3d printing manufacturers are Chinese too - they only suck at making cars.
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Old 02-11-2021, 03:36 PM
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Do you know that Ukraine closed 3 opposition television channels a couple of days ago? Is this freedom of speech? Have you heard a words of condemnation from the State Department?

Stop posting propaganda and try to study the issue from different angles. Maybe you will be right in the end, but this will be a full-fledged analysis, not a propaganda repost.
It was Russian propaganda, connected to the GRU. They named themselves, literally, "the opposition" in order to convey that their desire to be the only alternative to the government in power. None of it was true and it was constantly calling for the end of Ukraine's association with Europe and closer ties with Russia.

Russia doesn't get to hide its war propaganda disinformation under the cover of "free speech". Not in Ukraine anyway. You can still do it here on this website to your heart's content though.
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Old 02-12-2021, 12:24 AM
 
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It was Russian propaganda, connected to the GRU. They named themselves, literally, "the opposition" in order to convey that their desire to be the only alternative to the government in power. None of it was true and it was constantly calling for the end of Ukraine's association with Europe and closer ties with Russia.

Russia doesn't get to hide its war propaganda disinformation under the cover of "free speech". Not in Ukraine anyway. You can still do it here on this website to your heart's content though.
It is very comfortable. When you don't like something, you call it Russian propaganda and close it. btw, China has closed the BBC World News broadcasting. Do you support this China's decision? Or is this different?
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Old 02-12-2021, 03:11 PM
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It is very comfortable. When you don't like something, you call it Russian propaganda and close it. btw, China has closed the BBC World News broadcasting. Do you support this China's decision? Or is this different?
I didn't call it Russian propaganda. Ukraine did and so did the USA and the UK. I believe all 3 over Putin friendly oligarchs opinion about it. Your choice what to believe, I don't care.

I also don't care what China does or does not allow. It's their country, not a democracy, so its run the way their leaders want to run it. I'm fine with trading with China and I'm happy to see Europe doing the same.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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It's their country, not a democracy
Are you sure? Maybe your democracy isn't there?
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Old 02-15-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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Interesting interview from Oxana Boyko. 14:30. The wests greatest flaw is it's inability to think and act in the long term. Countries such as America and Britain have governments which only REACT to a problem, they cannot ACT to solve a problem.

https://www.rt.com/shows/worlds-apar...-china-crisis/
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Old 02-15-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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100 billion dollars is very small part of China's total trade (or the US for that matter).

They are going to pull in their horns as the Covid crisis is contained.

China’s overseas investment is falling just when the global economy needs it most

Chinese investment, in physical infrastructure especially, has been a key driver of global growth alongside its GDP contribution. Its decrease over the past few years is bad news for a global economy struggling to recover from Covid-19

SCMP

China credit impulse 4-year cycle

BNP

It gets tiring how people are constantly framing US, Russia, and China topics as us vs. them, rooting for one side or the other and distorting the information.
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