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What about Germany , france , Italy, Spain, Portugal , Ireland will they leave the EU.
Germany, France and Italy are 3 of the 6 founding Members of the EU (missing here Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg).
OTOH it would be easier for Portugal, and specially Ireland to leave, as they always been more disattached (for obvious reasons) to the rest of the continent..
1. Germany won't leave because it runs the show.
2. France won't leave because it thinks it runs the show.
3. Italy, Greece and Spain won't leave because they know they will be a debacle without the EU.
4. Belgium does not leave because it's the capital and benefits massively.
5. Scandinavia does not leave because it needs the EU for trading and manpower.
6. Central Europe does not leave because without the EU their economy would suck.
7. Balkans does not leave because if their economy sucks with the EU, imagine it without it.
8. Baltics do not leave because they do not want to become part of Russia again.
It's a symbiotic relationship.
The only country I could see leaving would be the Netherlands, but there is very little incentive for it to leave the EU.
The UK left because it naively thinks it's going to reinvent itself and create some Anglosphere theme park by recapturing the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, and then reposition London as the center of it all. But that is a wet dream more than a likely to happen reality.
Why, looking at the turmoil America is going through lately ( both domestically and internationally,) I suppose they see the opening for this particular role.
Maybe they should what if the EU collapses I wonder what happen.
The EU is not fit for purpose, so it will collapse eventually, I reckon. Plus, the longer the EU goes on, the more it will keep messing up.
After we voted to leave, in the Referendum of 2016, there seemed to be lots of talk from other EU countries about leaving… But then nothing ever came of it…
I guess they were watching us, to see how we got on with trying to leave. It didn’t help that the EU and the opposition in Parliament made things really difficult for us to leave. However, the UK was determined to go - so we did… eventually.
It wasn’t long after we finally left, that Covid appeared - so other EU countries have been focussed on that. But there’s still lots of Euroscepticism within a number of EU countries.
What should have happened, is that other EU countries should have jumped onto the Brexit bandwagon, at the time, and had their own Referendums. It would have been great to see a number of EU counties leaving at the same time! That would have helped to collapse the EU.
I’m not sure what various EU countries will do now, about leaving. They will find it difficult, as we did, as the EU will not want to see any more countries go. But I’m sure the ‘richer’ countries will do fine outside the EU, as the UK has done.
Last edited by Star10101; 01-11-2022 at 02:30 PM..
The EU is not fit for purpose, so it will collapse eventually, I reckon. Plus, the longer the EU goes on, the more it will keep messing up.
After we voted to leave, in the Referendum of 2016, there seemed to be lots of talk from other EU countries about leaving… But then nothing ever came of it…
I guess they were watching us, to see how we got on with trying to leave. It didn’t help that the EU and the opposition in Parliament made things really difficult for us to leave. However, the UK was determined to go - so we did… eventually.
It wasn’t long after we finally left, that Covid appeared - so other EU countries have been focussed on that. But there’s still lots of Euroscepticism within a number of EU countries.
What should have happened, is that other EU countries should have jumped onto the Brexit bandwagon, at the time, and had their own Referendums. It would have been great to see a number of EU counties leaving at the same time! That would have helped to collapsed the EU.
I’m not sure what various EU countries will do now, about leaving. They will find it difficult, as we did, as the EU will not want to see any more countries go. But I’m sure the ‘richer’ countries will do fine outside the EU, as the UK has done.
Judging by the way France was left out in the cold after that Australia-US deal, it's not that simple.
While Great Britain is counting on AUKUS, it's not a case for other "richer" continentals.
1. Germany won't leave because it runs the show.
2. France won't leave because it thinks it runs the show.
3. Italy, Greece and Spain won't leave because they know they will be a debacle without the EU.
4. Belgium does not leave because it's the capital and benefits massively.
5. Scandinavia does not leave because it needs the EU for trading and manpower.
6. Central Europe does not leave because without the EU their economy would suck.
7. Balkans does not leave because if their economy sucks with the EU, imagine it without it.
8. Baltics do not leave because they do not want to become part of Russia again.
It's a symbiotic relationship.
The only country I could see leaving would be the Netherlands, but there is very little incentive for it to leave the EU.
The UK left because it naively thinks it's going to reinvent itself and create some Anglosphere theme park by recapturing the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, and then reposition London as the center of it all. But that is a wet dream more than a likely to happen reality .
The first part that I’ve bolded, should be re-written as “It’s a toxic relationship”.
The second part that I’ve bolded - No, you are wrong on this. We are not looking to recreate another ‘Empire’ or anything of the kind. Although it’s good for the UK to have easier trading with these countries.
And by the way, the UK is doing just fine, outside of the EU, thanks.
Last edited by Star10101; 01-11-2022 at 02:35 PM..
1. Germany won't leave because it runs the show.
2. France won't leave because it thinks it runs the show.
3. Italy, Greece and Spain won't leave because they know they will be a debacle without the EU.
4. Belgium does not leave because it's the capital and benefits massively.
5. Scandinavia does not leave because it needs the EU for trading and manpower.
6. Central Europe does not leave because without the EU their economy would suck.
7. Balkans does not leave because if their economy sucks with the EU, imagine it without it.
8. Baltics do not leave because they do not want to become part of Russia again.
It's a symbiotic relationship.
The only country I could see leaving would be the Netherlands, but there is very little incentive for it to leave the EU.
The UK left because it naively thinks it's going to reinvent itself and create some Anglosphere theme park by recapturing the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, and then reposition London as the center of it all. But that is a wet dream more than a likely to happen reality.
Not sure what the UK is expecting post Brexit, but they do not have a strategic position in US/EU relations, their economy is shrinking, the English language has become synonymous with American culture, not theirs.
They don't have significant resources, the brain power they used to import from India ditched it for Canada, Australia and USA.
This whole canuzukusaninz whatever it's simply a way for the US to exercise power over its pawns (UK being one).
IF Scotland leaves that union (which is likely), England will be pretty much nothing.
Not sure what the UK is expecting post Brexit, but they do not have a strategic position in US/EU relations, their economy is shrinking, the English language has become synonymous with American culture, not theirs.
They don't have significant resources, the brain power they used to import from India ditched it for Canada, Australia and USA.
This whole canuzukusaninz whatever it's simply a way for the US to exercise power over its pawns (UK being one).
IF Scotland leaves that union (which is likely), England will be pretty much nothing.
No it isn't! In fact the UK economy is going to grow more than anywhere else in Europe and more than anybody in G7!
You're obviously just either a 'hater' or your jealous that you are still in the stifling EU! If you are still in the EU then I can only say - enjoy your lockdown.
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