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Old 01-27-2022, 02:42 PM
 
Location: South Wales, United Kingdom
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When it comes to the subject of currency Thatcher (love her or hate her) was spot on all those years ago:-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg
I was never a big fan of Maggie Thatcher, having lived through the Miners’ Strike and Poll Tax Riots. However, I did agree with her on this ^.
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Old 01-27-2022, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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The UK leaving the EU was a foolish decision in my view. That "economic growth" is from a low base and the current government is in shambles so no - the EU will remain intact.
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Old 01-27-2022, 04:23 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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The UK leaving the EU was a foolish decision in my view. That "economic growth" is from a low base and the current government is in shambles so no - the EU will remain intact.
No it isn't!? The UK is the worlds fifth largest economy, hardly 'low based' especially for such a small country. The government isn't 'a shambles' either! It is outperforming any in Europe, the UK has the fastest growing economy, was the first country to vaccinate, has the greatest ability to test & trace, and was the first country to come out of lockdown (back on 4th July 2021), which is one of the reasons its economy has had the head start. You are mistaking the BoJo 'witch hunt' for 'shambles'
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Old 01-29-2022, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Why is that only the uk left the EU is because of our superiority complex it because we think where better than the rest of Europe we did have a huge empire that stretched for miles and miles from the southernmost tip of the earth to the northernmost point to the far east and far west yes we english is most powerful language in the world due to our overtaking of the world no language even comes close come on if adk about avfrech Italian singer or film star or movie they would heard of but british everyone ha heard adele ed sheeran the bettles keep blaming us they saying we think we are better than rest of Europe and we our anti immigration they is more anti immigration sentiment in Eastern Europe than in the UK but no one ever talks about everyone keeps blaming Britain for everything so why don't other countries want the French kept going on brexit Poland is not to keen on the EU and think Germany is too much of a dominating force so what can we do about it. What if their is a frexit or gexit or itexit go on their what if say France, Germany Italy, Poland, Netherlands leave the EU.
Oh please - American English dominates the language not British English. Britain's soft power is declining and partygate is really accelerating that feature (clearly in middle power territory). The empire is over - move on and while you're at it, reestablish links with Europe.
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Old 01-29-2022, 02:08 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Oh please - American English dominates the language not British English. Britain's soft power is declining and partygate is really accelerating that feature (clearly in middle power territory). The empire is over - move on and while you're at it, reestablish links with Europe.
All said in perfect English!! The English variety! In fact there is no such thing as 'American English', Americans simply speak English.

Perhaps you can prove me wrong by repeating what you said above (in English of the English) again - but this time by using this mysterious 'American English' you speak of instead!?
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Old 01-29-2022, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Ireland wont leave as we are too small a country to thrive outside the EU , the UK is large enough to do well on its own

as for Germany , France etc , Those countries neighbour each other and it makes sense in many strategic ways to have an official union , again the UK was in a different situation to those large mainland countries
Why not form an economic zone with the UK, whom I assume is Ireland's biggest trading partner by a long shot anyway? Too much historical distrust still maybe?

If nothing else it would resolve the Republic / Northern Ireland border conundrum caused by the UK's withdrawal from the EU.
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Old 01-29-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Why not form an economic zone with the UK, whom I assume is Ireland's biggest trading partner by a long shot anyway? Too much historical distrust still maybe?

If nothing else it would resolve the Republic / Northern Ireland border conundrum caused by the UK's withdrawal from the EU.
Wouldn't Ireland have to get permission from the EU before it can make its own trade deals? I doubt the EU will let them.
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Old 01-29-2022, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Wouldn't Ireland have to get permission from the EU before it can make its own trade deals? I doubt the EU will let them.
The question assumes Ireland would have left the EU. irish_bob speculates they won't because they don't have enough economic clout to go it alone whereas the UK does. I don't think that's anywhere near the top of reasons why Ireland wouldn't leave, but if they did leave the EU, a free movement / free trade zone with the UK would seem like a no-brainer.
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Old 01-30-2022, 12:53 AM
 
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Why is that only the uk left the EU is because of our superiority complex it because we think where better than the rest of Europe
"rest of europe" might be an overstatement but "most of europe" certainly wouldn't be.

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yes we english is most powerful language in the world
Maybe if used properly...

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The main difference between the UK and the rest of of the EU member nations is the UK never went all-in to begin with. They never got rid of their own currency and banking system, so they always kept one foot out the door just in case.
Several other memberstates did not go all in. Denmark and Sweden still has Danish crowns (DKK) and Swedish crowns (SEK).
But yes in a nutshell this makes a potential exit easier.



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why don't other countries want the French kept going on brexit Poland is not to keen on the EU and think Germany is too much of a dominating force so what can we do about it. What if their is a frexit or gexit or itexit go on their what if say France, Germany Italy, Poland, Netherlands leave the EU.
French, italy and spain; Gains huge economic subsidies for agriculture, need EU to keep their farmers going at this point.

Germany: The market means they have a positive trade balance with absically all the small EU countries, meaning whatever they have to picth in to keep the rest of europe running, they get back in export revenues several times over.

Poland & Hungary; well as long as they can keep each other backs from getting their veto over-ruled they basically just keep getting loads of money.

Netherlands; I don't know much about them tbh.

The real question is why Austria, Sweden, Denmark and Finland stays, we only pay, pay, pay and pay more and what we get back is tiny scraps in science funding and another tiny bit in agriculture subsidies.

Essentially the EU at this point is a transfer of wealth from the north to the south, so of course the south is very happy about it.
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Old 01-31-2022, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The real question is why Austria, Sweden, Denmark and Finland stays, we only pay, pay, pay and pay more and what we get back is tiny scraps in science funding and another tiny bit in agriculture subsidies.

Essentially the EU at this point is a transfer of wealth from the north to the south, so of course the south is very happy about it.
You also "get back" a huge regulation burden that hurts trade and adds cost.

Adding additional layers of government regulation, control, and expense is never a good thing.
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