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As a black American, your best off in the US. There are three points to consider here:
a) "Racism" is relative. Think of how among many people in our own country, a white guy would be considered racist if he has a problem with his daughter dating a black guy. In other places, a white guy in the same situation might not be considered racist and will say something like "well I have black friends" etc. Same thing in Europe. Some people who say "I'm not racist" mean the former or the latter. Others might constantly call you race-related names but swear they aren't racist. It's all relative.
b) European countries still don't like to admit to racism. The three that seem to admit to it when it to any realistic extent when it occurs are the UK, France and the Netherlands. And still, I don't think they have the same definition as that we have in the US or Canada.
c) When you ask this question about Europe, ask another black person. In America, the black guy decides if it's racist or not. In Europe, it's a white guy who lives in a majority white area who is telling you what's racist and what isn't. Furthermore, many of these people who are "not racist" and tell you that the US is so terrible have never lived in place that is 30% black and 60% white or lived side by side with black people for a few centuries. What some of my European friends/colleagues consider "not" racist would sometimes be considered klan material in the US. Some people consider you interesting because they've never met someone like you, and some people won't like you because they've never met someone like you. Some girls will find you incredibly interesting and want to date you, others will expect you to be a "coon". Consider that.
I would definetly say France. France has more exposure to "black" people than any other country in Europe. A French person who is "not racist" has usually had much more exposure to black people and many more opportunities to be "racist". They have a better idea of "what not to say". Some of the other countries where a guy is "not racist", you might be the 15th black guy he's interacted with in his life and he may constantly offend you or fit the term "racist" in the US even unwittingly.
Yeah so then there would be one black politician in the French senate for every black person in France etc. That's not the case. When you turn on the TV in France (let alone other European countries), you would forget that 10% of the country is non-white. It's not one man one vote in terms of representation.
I think the French are just rude to outsiders in general. I am Dutch and I have never ever met so many rude, arrogant and humorless people as in France. They refuse to speak English! I was speaking French but they will not take the time to listen to you even if your trying to speak their language. I wouldn't even consider moving to France. As for Spain, I wouldn't know. I think Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Germany and England are a lot more liberal and accepting in general! Good luck with you decision.
As a black American, your best off in the US. There are three points to consider here:
a) "Racism" is relative. Think of how among many people in our own country, a white guy would be considered racist if he has a problem with his daughter dating a black guy. In other places, a white guy in the same situation might not be considered racist and will say something like "well I have black friends" etc. Same thing in Europe. Some people who say "I'm not racist" mean the former or the latter. Others might constantly call you race-related names but swear they aren't racist. It's all relative.
b) European countries still don't like to admit to racism. The three that seem to admit to it when it to any realistic extent when it occurs are the UK, France and the Netherlands. And still, I don't think they have the same definition as that we have in the US or Canada.
c) When you ask this question about Europe, ask another black person. In America, the black guy decides if it's racist or not. In Europe, it's a white guy who lives in a majority white area who is telling you what's racist and what isn't. Furthermore, many of these people who are "not racist" and tell you that the US is so terrible have never lived in place that is 30% black and 60% white or lived side by side with black people for a few centuries. What some of my European friends/colleagues consider "not" racist would sometimes be considered klan material in the US. Some people consider you interesting because they've never met someone like you, and some people won't like you because they've never met someone like you. Some girls will find you incredibly interesting and want to date you, others will expect you to be a "coon". Consider that.
I would definetly say France. France has more exposure to "black" people than any other country in Europe. A French person who is "not racist" has usually had much more exposure to black people and many more opportunities to be "racist". They have a better idea of "what not to say". Some of the other countries where a guy is "not racist", you might be the 15th black guy he's interacted with in his life and he may constantly offend you or fit the term "racist" in the US even unwittingly.
I am sorry, but you're wrong here. In the Netherlands we have a lot of people from Suriname (Indian and Creole descent), the Dutch Antilles (Curacao, Aruba and Bonaire), Indonesia and Africa. My colleagues, bosses and friends are from all nationalities (and the mixed varieties in between) I think some parts of Europe are more multicultural than any other country. There are racial tensions in Europe though, not towards ethnicity but towards religion (Islam). No worries for an African American at all, he or she would fit in the melting pot we have in Europe
I am sorry, but you're wrong here. In the Netherlands we have a lot of people from Suriname (Indian and Creole descent), the Dutch Antilles (Curacao, Aruba and Bonaire), Indonesia and Africa. My colleagues, bosses and friends are from all nationalities (and the mixed varieties in between) I think some parts of Europe are more multicultural than any other country. There are racial tensions in Europe though, not towards ethnicity but towards religion (Islam). No worries for an African American at all, he or she would fit in the melting pot we have in Europe
A "melting pot" in the U.S means something else than in Europe. I know what you mean though.
A "melting pot" in the U.S means something else than in Europe. I know what you mean though.
What does it mean in the US? I hope I didn't write something stupid....
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