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Old 02-05-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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Does anyone actually like steady state cardio for their workouts? By steady state, I mean doing an aerobic activity for a longer duration like 45-60 minutes, at a pace that makes your heart rate go up and you sweat, but not so much that you're gasping for breath.

I've been doing 60 minutes on the elliptical about 4-5 times per week the past month.

It seems like there's been a move in the fitness world the past years against steady state cardio (which did sway me for a bit, admittedly). There have been compelling studies that show long distance/long timed cardio could be harmful to your health, mainly due to inflammatory markers in the blood. So people have been jumping on the anti cardio bandwagon and that's why things like Crossfit and interval training like Tabata's, have become so popular and the mainstay of modern workout routines.

But personally, I love long cardio. It makes me look and feel better. I do interval type training once in a while to switch things up a bit, but I will never give up steady state cardio just because the 'experts' have deemed it wasteful and harmful.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:07 PM
 
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I like doing cardio for long as well. I feel great afterwards as well.
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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Research suggests that the majority of your training should be aerobic and alactic in nature. Glycolysis should be avoided whenever possible.

Training below your anaerobic threshold does not impede the body's ability to utilize oxygen, and doesn't destroy mitochondria which are critical to healthy immune system function. A compromised immune system will eventually lead to systematic issues that could result in a myriad of health concerns that inhibit your ability to exercise.

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Old 02-05-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Does anyone actually like steady state cardio for their workouts? By steady state, I mean doing an aerobic activity for a longer duration like 45-60 minutes, at a pace that makes your heart rate go up and you sweat, but not so much that you're gasping for breath.

I've been doing 60 minutes on the elliptical about 4-5 times per week the past month.

It seems like there's been a move in the fitness world the past years against steady state cardio (which did sway me for a bit, admittedly). There have been compelling studies that show long distance/long timed cardio could be harmful to your health, mainly due to inflammatory markers in the blood. So people have been jumping on the anti cardio bandwagon and that's why things like Crossfit and interval training like Tabata's, have become so popular and the mainstay of modern workout routines.

But personally, I love long cardio. It makes me look and feel better. I do interval type training once in a while to switch things up a bit, but I will never give up steady state cardio just because the 'experts' have deemed it wasteful and harmful.
Cyclists think nothing of pedaling for several hours. Often at just such an intensity as you describe. Certainly not "wasteful and harmful" whatsoever. Extreme marathon running, however, HAS been shown to eventually promote heart damage.

Most importantly: " I love long cardio." That, right there, is good reason to go for it.

Don in Austin
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:36 PM
 
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Does anyone actually like steady state cardio for their workouts? By steady state, I mean doing an aerobic activity for a longer duration like 45-60 minutes, at a pace that makes your heart rate go up and you sweat, but not so much that you're gasping for breath.

I've been doing 60 minutes on the elliptical about 4-5 times per week the past month.

It seems like there's been a move in the fitness world the past years against steady state cardio (which did sway me for a bit, admittedly). There have been compelling studies that show long distance/long timed cardio could be harmful to your health, mainly due to inflammatory markers in the blood. So people have been jumping on the anti cardio bandwagon and that's why things like Crossfit and interval training like Tabata's, have become so popular and the mainstay of modern workout routines.

But personally, I love long cardio. It makes me look and feel better. I do interval type training once in a while to switch things up a bit, but I will never give up steady state cardio just because the 'experts' have deemed it wasteful and harmful.
There's nothing wrong with the sort of cardio workout you describe and have been doing. Congrats on that, as you with that amount of cardio are probably in the 90th percentile for American adults! So good job.

I would be remiss if I didn't let you know, however, that many studies and tests have pretty much proven beyond refute that interval training is a more optimal way to burn fat than steady state, as you call it. You might try it. Just do sprints at about 75-90% of your full on flat out 50 meter dash fastest. Do them for, say, one minute followed by a one minute or slightly longer walking rest period. Or if you're able, jog slowly between sprints. Do this for half an hour or longer if you can, as a twice a week supplement to your long steady cardio workouts. I think! You'll see some results!

Serious runners do three types of workouts every week. They do the long easy runs, as you mentioned, added with the speed work or interval training, and they also do what we call tempo runs, which is basically running at about 70% of your best one mile time, for a period that is about half the time of your long steady run.

Best of luck and keep up the good work!
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Cyclists think nothing of pedaling for several hours. Often at just such an intensity as you describe. Certainly not "wasteful and harmful" whatsoever. Extreme marathon running, however, HAS been shown to eventually promote heart damage.

Most importantly: " I love long cardio." That, right there, is good reason to go for it.

Don in Austin
Yeah, but unless you are riding on a completely flat trail/road which, as a cyclist myself, would bore me stiff, it is NOT steady state. Flats are always easier to ride than hills, even at higher gear settings.

OP, I'm just getting into elliptical training, and I can only do 20 minutes, tops, right now!
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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Research suggests that the majority of your training should be aerobic and alactic in nature. Glycolysis should be avoided whenever possible.

Training below your anaerobic threshold does not impede the body's ability to utilize oxygen, and doesn't destroy mitochondria which are critical to healthy immune system function. A compromised immune system will eventually lead to systematic issues that could result in a myriad of health concerns that inhibit your ability to exercise.
How about just doing what you love and leaving all this mumbo jumbo out of it?
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Encino, CA
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Does anyone actually like steady state cardio for their workouts? By steady state, I mean doing an aerobic activity for a longer duration like 45-60 minutes, at a pace that makes your heart rate go up and you sweat, but not so much that you're gasping for breath.
I like it. I usually do it a few times per week as my early morning cardio. But, I have found that I get the optimum results (fat burning and athletic improvement) when I mix things up.

For example, my morning cardio for the week is:

Monday: 7 mile run
Tuesday: 10 x 100 yard full speed sprints with 10 burpees, 10 pushups and 10 squats after each sprint.
Wednesday: 5 mile run
Thursday: 40 minutes of double under jump rope followed by Tabatas of air squats, mountain climbers, and pushups
Friday: 5 mile run

As I get older, the runs act as almost a meditative type workout. I feel great after. I think steady-state is great and has a place in EVERY fitness program, but optimal results require tabata and/or high intensity as well.
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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40 minutes of cardio is about the max I'll do and it's never on one machine. I find cardio to be very boring and I have limited time. Whatever I'm doing works well enough for me. I'd say I'm moderate to a bit above moderate intensity.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: East Mt Airy, Philadelphia
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How about just doing what you love and leaving all this mumbo jumbo out of it?
Indeed. Unless the training regimen can ultimately prove unhealthy for your age or other circumstance, going with what you love is good advice. The only thing I'd add is that as you age it's more important to do complementary exercises - in my 20s/30s I'd just run. Minimal stretching before runs, usually none afterwards. Now, in my mid-60s, I spend a lot of time stretching before and after runs and work with light weights & do stretching/core work on the off/non-running days. I've never felt better. I'm a lot slower per mile, but overall conditioning ... never better.
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