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Well, if you do the following as your foundation (through the week/routine, not every workout)
deads
bench
OHP
squat
row (BB or DB)
chins/pull up
You will have a pretty balanced strength training program. Do what the hell ever else you feel the need to on top of these things, but you will have covered the fundamental strength and balancing aspect of your program. You can go do a million bicep curls, yoga, sit and play on the phone, whatever, lol.
Well, if you do the following as your foundation (through the week/routine, not every workout)
deads
bench
OHP
squat
row (BB or DB)
chins/pull up
You will have a pretty balanced strength training program. Do what the hell ever else you feel the need to on top of these things, but you will have covered the fundamental strength and balancing aspect of your program. You can go do a million bicep curls, yoga, sit and play on the phone, whatever, lol.
If you have a specific body goal in mind, then you're going to hit a wall without changing up your workouts. Anyone can get "newbie" gains by doing the above exercises for a few weeks. The problem most people have is getting further muscular development beyond those initial gains. This is the audience most weightlifting advice is intended for.
If you have a specific body goal in mind, then you're going to hit a wall without changing up your workouts. Anyone can get "newbie" gains by doing the above exercises for a few weeks. The problem most people have is getting further muscular development beyond those initial gains. This is the audience most weightlifting advice is intended for.
But notice boxus stipulated if you do the listed exercises as a "foundation." There's a lot of additional smaller lifts that can work to augment the big lifts, and with them there's a lot of different ways to vary the training schedule. For that matter there's a lot of ways to vary the schedule just within those foundational exercises to avoid reaching a plateau.
But notice boxus stipulated if you do the listed exercises as a "foundation." There's a lot of additional smaller lifts that can work to augment the big lifts, and with them there's a lot of different ways to vary the training schedule. For that matter there's a lot of ways to vary the schedule just within those foundational exercises to avoid reaching a plateau.
I understood what he was saying. I don't disagree. I pointed out that the OP was basically complaining about how so many people make muscle building complicated. It is, in fact, complicated if you're trying to progress beyond a certain point. There's a difference between someone who is satisfied with 20 lbs of newbie gains and "okay" muscle definition and someone who is trying to push beyond those limits. The advice for these people won't be the same.
The "complicated" training and diet regimens are for people who've already maxed out their newbie gains. These people need to do more than the 4 basic lifts for additional gains. If this were not the case, then all of the YouTube weighlifting channels, fitness magazines and GNC would not exist. Literally every guy who puts in hard work in the gym would look like Reggie Bush.
Yet we know that 99% of the men who hit the gym on a regular basis don't look like Reggie Bush even if they're trying really hard. All of that "complicated" advice is for guys seeking to get a little closer to that standard.
If you have a specific body goal in mind, then you're going to hit a wall without changing up your workouts. Anyone can get "newbie" gains by doing the above exercises for a few weeks. The problem most people have is getting further muscular development beyond those initial gains. This is the audience most weightlifting advice is intended for.
You can get gains doing those four exercises for a long time.
I guess the real question is why YouTube channels like Athlean-X and Buff Dudes get thousands of comments per video. What are those guys doing wrong?
I don't know but my guess is most of them don't even do those exercises consistently. They also probably go to the gym and do the exact same thing day in and day out. As you progress your training methods must become more sophisticated.
I don't know but my guess is most of them don't even do those exercises consistently. They also probably go to the gym and do the exact same thing day in and day out. As you progress your training methods must become more sophisticated.
Well that's the point I've been making this whole time.
I don't think weightlifting is necessarily complicated but it's not necessarily easy either. How complicated or how easy it is will depend on what you want out of it. If all you're aiming for is some increased muscle mass, and you're basically starting from Ground Zero, then most basic weight training regimens will help you achieve that. If you're trying to look like Terrell Owens at the NFL combine, then you will have to not only work a lot harder, but also a lot smarter.
I don't think there's any shortage of effort from most posters on sites like BB.com. I think building mass beyond a certain point is very difficult for most people, which is why there are about 4 billion threads, articles and YouTube videos on how to do it.
If you have a specific body goal in mind, then you're going to hit a wall without changing up your workouts. Anyone can get "newbie" gains by doing the above exercises for a few weeks. The problem most people have is getting further muscular development beyond those initial gains. This is the audience most weightlifting advice is intended for.
A few weeks? I guess NFL players aren't seeing anything but newbie gains after the first few weeks of training squats/dead/bench/rows/military?
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