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Old 01-13-2012, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Soliciting opinions. If you are generally anti-plastic surgery, what you have to say carries a lot less weight in this discussion.

For about 5 years I've been trying to sock away money for a nose job. I am a black female living in New York City. My father is from the Commonwealth of Dominica and my mother is African-American. I don't like to think of myself as particularly vain, but I'd like to look the very best that I can. I want a higher nose bridge. I have no problem with the width of my nose, the size of my nostrils, or the shape of the bulbous lower portion of my nose. I simply want my nose bridge raised.

I've discussed this with people I've dated and people I've been close to (who are mostly white) and I get reactions ranging from shock ("Why would you do something like that?") to the worst reaction of all: "Do you want to look white?"


The answer as far as I can discern is no, I don't want to be white, and I have a great life. My twin sister has a higher nose bridge than I do (we are fraternal twins) and I want her nose bridge. I don't see how that's wanting to be European.

(Just as a note: the profile photo I have is not greatly descriptive of my lack of nose bridge since my face is at an angle)

Of course, there's always the argument that black people in Western culture have internalized Western standards of beauty, but that's a statement that stops the discussion dead in its tracks as it's impossible to abstract yourself from society. Entirely circular, not that the point doesn't have any merit.

Thoughts?
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Wow, you look perfect already.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: US
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Don't mess with your nose. I think its cute! If you do maybe go with a temp filler than being cut into. I would be paranoid about scars if I had darker skin. Darker skin can scar more heavily than white skin. But really..your nose is cute. Keep it!

Whatever you do..don't pull a michael jackson on yourself. Blek. A natural ethnic nose looks a million times better than that. I don't even think those nose trim jobs look good on most white people either. But I have seen bridge changed in others where its reduced to remove that roman bump. That really is the only type of nose job I think looks really good. Or when people get a bit of filler to smooth out the nasal line.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Soliciting opinions. If you are generally anti-plastic surgery, what you have to say carries a lot less weight in this discussion.

For about 5 years I've been trying to sock away money for a nose job. I am a black female living in New York City. My father is from the Commonwealth of Dominica and my mother is African-American. I don't like to think of myself as particularly vain, but I'd like to look the very best that I can. I want a higher nose bridge. I have no problem with the width of my nose, the size of my nostrils, or the shape of the bulbous lower portion of my nose. I simply want my nose bridge raised.

I've discussed this with people I've dated and people I've been close to (who are mostly white) and I get reactions ranging from shock ("Why would you do something like that?") to the worst reaction of all: "Do you want to look white?"


The answer as far as I can discern is no, I don't want to be white, and I have a great life. My twin sister has a higher nose bridge than I do (we are fraternal twins) and I want her nose bridge. I don't see how that's wanting to be European.

(Just as a note: the profile photo I have is not greatly descriptive of my lack of nose bridge since my face is at an angle)

Of course, there's always the argument that black people in Western culture have internalized Western standards of beauty, but that's a statement that stops the discussion dead in its tracks as it's impossible to abstract yourself from society. Entirely circular, not that the point doesn't have any merit.

Thoughts?
With regard to your profile pic, there isn't a man on the board that is going to even notice you have a nose.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Soliciting opinions. If you are generally anti-plastic surgery, what you have to say carries a lot less weight in this discussion.

For about 5 years I've been trying to sock away money for a nose job. I am a black female living in New York City. My father is from the Commonwealth of Dominica and my mother is African-American. I don't like to think of myself as particularly vain, but I'd like to look the very best that I can. I want a higher nose bridge. I have no problem with the width of my nose, the size of my nostrils, or the shape of the bulbous lower portion of my nose. I simply want my nose bridge raised.

I've discussed this with people I've dated and people I've been close to (who are mostly white) and I get reactions ranging from shock ("Why would you do something like that?") to the worst reaction of all: "Do you want to look white?"


The answer as far as I can discern is no, I don't want to be white, and I have a great life. My twin sister has a higher nose bridge than I do (we are fraternal twins) and I want her nose bridge. I don't see how that's wanting to be European.

(Just as a note: the profile photo I have is not greatly descriptive of my lack of nose bridge since my face is at an angle)

Of course, there's always the argument that black people in Western culture have internalized Western standards of beauty, but that's a statement that stops the discussion dead in its tracks as it's impossible to abstract yourself from society. Entirely circular, not that the point doesn't have any merit.

Thoughts?
I'm not a huge fan of plastic surgery, but I think everyone in this country has the right to do what they want to do. If it makes you feel better, then do it. Just pick a good surgeon with a great track record so you don't get botched up.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Any thoughts on non-whites getting plastic surgery and Euro beauty ideals, 20years in Branson?
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Don't mess with your nose. I think its cute! If you do maybe go with a temp filler than being cut into. I would be paranoid about scars if I had darker skin. Darker skin can scar more heavily than white skin. But really..your nose is cute. Keep it!
Thanks! Unfortunately I know nothing about temp filler. Gotta do my research. As far as I know, they perform rhinoplasty by going through the nostrils so there would be no external scars. I do have a problem with scarring in my family.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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i think that those people who have said you are trying to be 'white' are racist.
every race participates in plastic surgery.


it's your body. do with it as you wish.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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I've discussed this with people I've dated and people I've been close to (who are mostly white) and I get reactions ranging from shock ("Why would you do something like that?") to the worst reaction of all: "Do you want to look white?"
I think that belief stems from some kind of overcompensation for prejudices. Somebody feels guilty for believing that European standards are more beautiful, and so he or she says overly reassuring things ... or outright stupid things.

I've heard statements about black women who do things to their hair to make it smooth, blonde, or otherwise different than it is, but I don't think people make those same statements about white women who dye their hair different colors or style it in various ways. So I think that whole attitude is nonsense. If you're unhappy with your nose and want to change it, do it.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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You don't have white-envy, but you do suffer from twin-sister-envy...might wanna figure out what's up with that..
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