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Old 09-09-2018, 11:31 PM
 
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Old 09-10-2018, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: OHIO
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Marilyn Monroe was slender. She may have had curves because that was the shape of her body. Curves don't equal more weight. I do think she fluctuated with her weight here and there, but nothing close to what modern society like to imply.

August 2, 1945
Blue Book Modeling Agency
5’ 6”, 120lbs
36-24-34


February 8, 1954
DOD ID Card
5’ 5 1/2”, 118lbs

August 5, 1962
LA Coroner Medical Report
5’ 5 1/25”, 117lbs
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Marilyn Monroe was slender. She may have had curves because that was the shape of her body. Curves don't equal more weight. I do think she fluctuated with her weight here and there, but nothing close to what modern society like to imply.

August 2, 1945
Blue Book Modeling Agency
5’ 6”, 120lbs
36-24-34


February 8, 1954
DOD ID Card
5’ 5 1/2”, 118lbs

August 5, 1962
LA Coroner Medical Report
5’ 5 1/25”, 117lbs
Curvy is about propotions not size. (Although the terms can be used interchangeably these days). You can have curvy proportions at any size. It is really about waist to hip ratio. Monroe had an obvious difference between waist and hips that wasn’t common.

I do concur with the OPs premise that “white” people are getting curvier in proportion and that is now a good thing. Previously those proportions were not good. And considered “fat” in some communities. I have a white friend who is curvy. She wears size 6-8 and is hourglass shaped. She is a slim lady but her Asian coworkers think she is “chunky” because she has hips and boobs. She isn’t, but her shape used to be not that accepted by “mainstream” before recent years.

Traditionally a straighter figure was considered ideal for “white” people.
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Seriously, you can be extremely curvaceous at any weight. Weight isn't a factor in whether or not one's build is curvy. All it means is that one's waist is proportionally notably smaller than either their hip span, their bustline, or both. This can occur at any weight.

I don't think "White people are getting more curvy."

There have always been white people with this silhouette. It just wasn't always fashionable or celebrated.

I do think that women aren't as apt to dress to hide a wide-hipped build as they may have been in certain other eras of fashion. So this might create the perception that this build is suddenly everywhere. But that's not the case. It's that women aren't trying to camouflage it, and modeling agencies and talent scouts are including it in their criteria when they weren't in, say, the 1990s, or other periods of time where slim, angular builds were sought.
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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I think the fashion and entertainment world features curvy wome more now, so you are more aware. Curvy women have always been around, whether black or white.
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Previously those proportions were not good. And considered “fat” in some communities. I have a white friend who is curvy. She wears size 6-8 and is hourglass shaped. She is a slim lady but her Asian coworkers think she is “chunky” because she has hips and boobs.
It is very culturally common in certain Asian cultures for curvaceous body types to be considered undesirable.

My sister-in-law, my husband's half-sister from his dad's second marriage to a Taiwanese woman, is biracial, raised in a Taiwanese household. She has what would be considered a classic Asian phenotype in regard to many of her features (hair color and texture, eye color and shape and epicanthal folds), but her build is like that of her white father and his family..taller, heavier, powerful legs with thick thighs. She played tennis, so this further created a muscular, powerful build. She also has a larger chest than any of her Asian family members. Throughout her teenage years, "getting her weight down" was a major focus for her mom and grandma and cousins. Despite being very fit, she was seen as heavier than due to being raised in a culture that prizes being very petite and angular, and she is not. She is perfectly fit and very athletic, but not petite.
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I think the fashion and entertainment world features curvy wome more now, so you are more aware. Curvy women have always been around, whether black or white.
Yep. We just are no longer invisible or encouraged to camouflage our builds.
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Some of it has to do with obesity and some of it has to do with medical enhancement. Some AA have a genetic predisposition for a large rear end. Googlen image search "Native Africans with a big butt". Why is it so popular with white women these days? It's all media and marketing.

It's not. Despite the OP's anecdotal claims to the contrary, I'm guessing that most women--white or black-- have ZERO interest in looking 4-feet wide, sideways (from boob to butt).
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Old 09-10-2018, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Marilyn Monroe was slender. She may have had curves because that was the shape of her body. Curves don't equal more weight. I do think she fluctuated with her weight here and there, but nothing close to what modern society like to imply.

August 2, 1945
Blue Book Modeling Agency
5’ 6”, 120lbs
36-24-34


February 8, 1954
DOD ID Card
5’ 5 1/2”, 118lbs

August 5, 1962
LA Coroner Medical Report
5’ 5 1/25”, 117lbs

The coroner's report noted her height at 5' 5 1/2".
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