[aax]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

Well, at least people should already be stocked up on supplies, right? No need for the panic shopping that normally precedes hurricanes.

Folks may not want to do this, but if you use enemas every day you can really cut down on toilet paper use if you can't find any toilet paper. You will not need it.

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by LKJ1988

Panic shopping is already taking place.

Exactly my point. People will be so overly stocked with junk that they won’t need to bulk/panic shop for anything come hurricane season.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by aax

Folks may not want to do this, but if you use enemas every day you can really cut down on toilet paper use if you can't find any toilet paper. You will not need it.

Just use a wet rag.

[franniejacks]

DeSantis said earlier today that he welcomes the New Yorkers that are fleeing New York this past week, and coming to Florida.

New York has by far the HIGHEST incidence and death from the virus.

There is no mechanism to check those arriving here for symptoms, either by car, train or plane.

Does this dufus understand that he is encouraging the importation of a deadly disease?!?!?

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by franniejacks

DeSantis said earlier today that he welcomes the New Yorkers that are fleeing New York this past week, and coming to Florida.

New York has by far the HIGHEST incidence and death from the virus.

There is no mechanism to check those arriving here for symptoms, either by car, train or plane.

Does this dufus understand that he is encouraging the importation of a deadly disease?!?!?

Just out of curiosity, is there a link to what he said you can provide? Not disbelieving you, but I just wanted to see what the wording and to what outlet he said it.

Yea, it'd make at least some sense if there's actually a testing and quarantining system for this, but what indication of these being in place is there? It's almost completely counter to the idea of trying to shelter at home. China basically stopped all movement from Hubei province to other provinces after it became very, very clear how dire the situation was and was able to keep the spread in other provinces contained as they ramped up testing and quarantine processes. We are nowhere near having sufficient testing now, so how does this make any sense?

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

See the response I posted above. It may be difficult for you to understand, especially since you keep glossing over it, but you could probably eventually get it.

the last thing I need is your uppity insults....don't reply to me again...you're on ignore

[boy3365]

Re: New York flights to Florida

https://www.wesh.com/article/new-yor...virus/31902115


There’s nothing in the article about DeSantis welcoming them.

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

the last thing I need is your uppity insults....don't reply to me again...you're on ignore

I'm okay with this! Even if I can't change your mind on this and try to actually think through things, at least the below might help somebody

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

You are what I'm talking about. Where is the rest of that sentence? This is why the WHO needs to understand what the audience of Twitter actually is and needs to understand what may be understood by people in the profession does not mean the same thing for a broader public. It actually undermines their own efforts by communicating on Twitter in that manner. They should be doing links or images with written text in order to be able to actually make people understand.

Take the full sentence. The Chinese authorities are not the WHO, and there may be reason (duh, now) to suspect their findings. Preliminary is maybe not a word that everyone knows or understands, but it is important to note that these are early findings and therefore inconclusive. No clear evidence does not rule out the possibility--it only means that there is not data, at that point early on and relayed from Chinese authorities, to confirm or strongly suggest that there was human-to-human transmission. That would make sense in retrospect given how asymptomatic a lot of carriers are, and there can quickly be a lot of carriers, or have symptoms during the duration that can be easily conflated with influenza or similar. Would the general public really have thought all that through? No, that is obviously not what the general public understands which is why the WHO undermines itself by posting such--it needs to understand the platform and its audience. Instead, people will take an already small snippet and then lop it off to just "no clear evidence of human to human transmission." That's the audience that they are dealing with if they use Twitter, and it is important for them to keep that in mind in the future.

[bale002]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Just out of curiosity, is there a link to what he said you can provide? Not disbelieving you, but I just wanted to see what the wording and to what outlet he said it.

Even if it were an article written by a journalist, it would have no credibility. It would have to be an audio/video with the full context.

Whatever that poster is referring to, the context was probably a discourse on the differences in State-level taxation that prompts many northeasterners to relocate to Florida, and that probably several weeks ago.


Governor De Santis today spoke about the hospitalization rate, down from around 40% at the start of testing, down to somewhat below 20% as testing has expanded. That's still high; in comparison Governor Cuomo of New York is reporting around 13%, I believe, but with much greater testing resources than Florida right now.

Here is a link that leads to case-by-case daily reports from which one can calculate the hospitalization rate.

Here is the case-by-case daily report for 22 March 2020, which shows so far 181 hospitalizations throughout the State of Florida due to CoViD-19.

So it seems that the Florida authorities are currently focusing testing on senior communities, the most vulnerable sector of the population, protection of whom is the main goal of this entire operation, isn't it?

As testing resources expand in the coming days, the hospitalization rate should decrease, though the absolute number of those hospitalized is expected to increase, so the biggest task is to prepare for that, while at the same time avoid new cases.

Currently Florida's case fatality rate is 1.2%, just below the national average.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

See the response I posted above. It may be difficult for you to understand, especially since you keep glossing over it, but you could probably eventually get it. The WHO should very well know that there are going to be many, many people like you or even more severe and so they need to tailor their messages to the general public accordingly. This isn't just a US phenomenon--this is something that happens in other languages and media. In China, there were fairly concise headlines that people misinterpreted and then snowballed into a massive conspiracy theory that the US Army planted the coronavirus in Wuhan--that should be obviously crazy, but there are so many small phrases here and there being used as evidence out of context and there was so many people who believed it and it became such a popular idea that even actual government officials started believing it and some are probably purposefully leaning into it now to deflect blame at least temporarily.

Stupid knows no bounds, by definition stupid doesn't know much, and the right thing for the WHO to do is to realize that they need to really consider what they say because there is that massive audience out there.

Use ignore, it works wonders and saves banging away on a key board. Even with the well above normal temps it is not slowing anything down so higher temps don't seem to help.