[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by lovemyfl

That's good! Let's get this behind us.

People in counties with 0-10 reported cases, and who live paycheck to paycheck would strongly disagree with you. We shouldn't just look at this from our own perspective.

[bbronston]

Here’s the problem with looking at the number of infections in your area and basing your decisions on that: in early February, there were only a relative handful of cases so everyone just carried on. In late February and early March, you heard about the occasional case here and there but it was nothing like now. If you asked most people about it then, they probably would have thought shutting down the entire state was unreasonable. Now, we have hotspots all over. The lesson is clear...yesterday’s places of low or no activity are tomorrow’s places of infection, absent any efforts to mitigate the spread.

A month ago, I would have thought all this was impossible. Now, I see it’s a necessity.

[Gulf coast jon]

What some might not understand is how many infected can be asymptomatic. One verified C-19 case means that whole community is at risk. Then add in our total failure at timely testing....

Originally Posted by bbronston

Here’s the problem with looking at the number of infections in your area and basing your decisions on that: in early February, there were only a relative handful of cases so everyone just carried on. In late February and early March, you heard about the occasional case here and there but it was nothing like now. If you asked most people about it then, they probably would have thought shutting down the entire state was unreasonable. Now, we have hotspots all over. The lesson is clear...yesterday’s places of low or no activity are tomorrow’s places of infection, absent any efforts to mitigate the spread.

A month ago, I would have thought all this was impossible. Now, I see it’s a necessity.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by Gulf coast jon

What some might not understand is how many infected can be asymptomatic. One verified C-19 case means that whole community is at risk. Then add in our total failure at timely testing....

exactly.....I think there's an astronomical amount of people with no symptoms at all

[Gulf coast jon]

Which is why DeSantis did a huge disservice to our State and our Country. I think we are going to pay heavily for our leaders' dislike of science.

Originally Posted by Corrie22

exactly.....I think there's an astronomical amount of people with no symptoms at all

[OpinionInOcala]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

exactly.....I think there's an astronomical amount of people with no symptoms at all

If an astronomical amount of asymptomatic infected existed (and we'll find out once antibody tests are distributed en masse), it would actually be a good thing for the long-term provided that Dr. Fauci is correct in his assumption that those who've had it are effectively immune.

[franniejacks]

Originally Posted by Gulf coast jon

Which is why DeSantis did a huge disservice to our State and our Country. I think we are going to pay heavily for our leaders' dislike of science.

His stay-at-home order is very weak and he has NULLIFIED the orders in Pinellas, Hillsborough etc. And he did it in the dark, no cameras, no statement from his office. He's a snake.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health...-restrictions/

Hours after Gov. Ron DeSantis issued a statewide stay-at-home order Wednesday, he quietly signed another one that overrides restrictions put in place by local governments to halt the spread of coronavirus.

The second order requires that new state guidelines taking effect Friday morning “shall supersede any conflicting official action or order issued by local officials in response to COVID-19.” In other words, local governments cannot place any limitations that would be more strict than the statewide guidelines.

Locally, it means Hillsborough County cannot mandate churches close their doors, a rule that drew national attention and the ire of the local Republican Party after Tampa megachurch The River of Tampa Bay held two Sunday services, leading to the arrest of pastor Rodney Howard Browne.

DeSantis signed the second order at 6:36 p.m. — just five hours after he issued his statewide stay-at-home directive. Unlike that first action — which DeSantis unveiled at a well-attended press conference that aired on the state’s cable channel and was sent out in a news release — there was no announcement about the signing of the second order or a subsequent news release.

[WRnative]

If you scroll over this map, considered one of the best available, it shows only 1,082 cases in Florida. It's obviously a map using non-current information, as Florida's confirmed cases today were 9,008. Is there a better map?

https://www.healthmap.org/covid-19/

https://floridadisaster.org/globalas...04-02-1715.pdf

https://data.tallahassee.com/coronavirus/

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20...n-be-deceiving

[WRnative]

While it may take several days to confirm, the 4/2 Florida reported COVID-19 hospitalization and death growth rates were very bad, but perhaps reflect underreporting on 4/1. I saw no reports that Florida acknowledged underreporting on 4/1.

Here are hospitalizations and deaths reported by Florida for the last three days with daily growth rates in parentheses. Florida apparently reports hospitalizations and deaths only for Florida residents. If hospitalizations and deaths for non-residents (are undocumented workers deemed non-residents? how many non-residents currently are living in Florida?) were included, total hospitalizations and deaths apparently would be higher. Florida, unlike other states, apparently does NOT report COVID-19 ICU beds occupied. ICU statistics may be among the most important statistics as states with expanded Medicaid may hospitalize patients with less severe symptoms than states lacking expanded Medicaid, such as Florida.

3/31/20
857
85
4/1/20
890 (4%)
87 (2%)
4/2/20
1,167 (31%)
144 (65%)

The above statistics very well may reflect underreporting for 4/1 as growth rates for 4/1 seem unrealistically low. The two-day growth rates (using a business calculator to adjust for compounding) for Florida COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths are 17 percent and 30 percent, respectively.

https://floridadisaster.org/globalas...03-31-1742.pdf

https://floridadisaster.org/globalas...04-01-1037.pdf

https://floridadisaster.org/globalas...04-02-1715.pdf

Florida COVID-19 reports for the next several days will suggest the steepness of the Florida COVID-19 curve as the U.S. epidemic continues to escalate towards its peak.

[WRnative]

How widely are plexiglass dividers in use in Florida?

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/...DOEG55SMIXL4U/

In my area, they seem universal. All grocery stores have them, including Aldi's. This week, they appeared at the U.S. post office.

They should perhaps be a national requirement.

<<People should take particular care against high-dose exposures, which are most likely to occur in close in-person interactions — such as coffee meetings, crowded bars and quiet time in a room with Grandma — and from touching our faces after getting substantial amounts of virus on our hands. In-person interactions are more dangerous in enclosed spaces and at short distances, with dose escalating with exposure time. For transient interactions that violate the rule of maintaining six feet between you and others, such as paying a cashier at the grocery store, keep them brief — aim for “within six feet, only six seconds.”>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/o...iral-dose.html