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There are a lot of restaurants in Atlanta that serve Lobster and Lox and Bagels, but that is not where they started or what we think of, when we think of the south. Absolutely in no way can one connect the New England region with ribs;;;
Actually, ribs were originally eaten in England, and most of the earliest immigrants to America were English and German, so maybe. I agree it's not nearly as popular as the other dishes we mentioned, though.
Even so, their types of pies are different. It only makes since that since the NE is the oldest part of our nation, they had pies first. Probably the most American thing would be an apple pie. Although I do recall studying in school that Louisiana's state food symbol was actually a meat pie. Same with Florida, they had a cream pie as well.
Actually, ribs were originally eaten in England, and most of the earliest immigrants to America were English and German, so maybe. I agree it's not nearly as popular as the other dishes we mentioned, though.
I have seen recipes for New England ribs and Massachusetts ribs. I believe the Massachusetts ribs were baked in the oven for hours and basted with Bbq sauce.
A regional food in Montana, is a cornish pasty, a piecrust folded over meat, that miners would take into the mine.
Actually, the cornish pasty is a food that all miners took into the mine. It was also taken into the mines in Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota. In general, the ingredients were red meat (usually beef or lamb) and root vegetables (potatoes, turnips, rutabagas, carrots) baked in a pastry crust.
Even so, their types of pies are different. It only makes since that since the NE is the oldest part of our nation, they had pies first.
Oh dear - both cultural cuisine AND history are taking a hit today! Technically, the first successful settlement in what is now the USA was Jamestown, Virginia in 1607. Not the NE.
However, the Dutch began settling New Amsterdam (now New York) in 1609, only two years after Jamestown. So more realistically, the regions developed pretty parallel to each other and I would not say one is any older than the other. If you're interested in more information about the development of the colonies, I suggest the book Family Life in 17th and 18th Century America which covers much of it along side it's cultural and human history. But for quicker reference, here's a list of European colonies in America and their founding dates: European colonization of the Americas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Note that nothing in the USA predates Jamestown - only the French in Canada do by a few years but Canada isn't a part of this discussion.
It may be true that different types of pies are more popular in the north versus south. But apple pie is not one of them - it's pretty universal. Fact of the matter remains that you claimed pies, "especially apple" were a northern thing, unpopular in the south, which is incorrect. And now you're trying to skirt around the fact that you're wrong by making inaccurate historical claims too! Do yourself a favor and just stop talking, lol
A part of my family were very longstanding New Englanders [think 1600's]. They ate few "ethnic" foods like that spaghetti stuff :+) They actually ate stuff we think of as Brit - like lots of lamb, shad in the spring, organ meat & tongue, mincemeat pie[as well as rhubarb], roast beef with popovers. They baked steamed brown bread in a mold. They ate very seasonally - couldn't wait for spring asparagus !; & locally - clams, lobster, cranberries, blueberries, apples, squash, corn.
I think seasonal & local greatly influenced what I associate with "the maiden aunts" - - - my parents' generation had a lot more to choose from throughout the year.
this is becoming almost funny: we have gone from what most consider regional foods, those associated with certain parts of the country, to whether a place is midwest and now where we originally settled..I think all of this becomes a matter of opinion; what we think of when we think of a part of our country, especially food. I think some people are confusing where a food started with what foods are associated with a particular area. But regardless it is good reading and there are no right or wrong answers...
When I think of the foods of the south, 2 of the first foods that come to mind are delicious ribs from Memphis and pie, especially peach.
Oh and to whomever mentioned Tastykakes, yes they are definitely a northern thing, but they are now available in the south. I saw them just last week in grocery store in Atlanta, and a couple of months ago in a store in Texas. I have a niece who just loves their butterscotch krumpets. She fell in love with them while visiting family in Pennsylvania, and is now just thrilled that she can get them at home in Houston.
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