The oil spill has got me worried. (fit in, mortgages)

[hiknapster]

Article II of the US Constitution makes the President of the United State of America Commander-in-Chief of the US armed forces. Specifically, Article II, Section 2, Clause I.

But...moving on, up in the Sarasota forum they are complaining about the smell of oil. Well, I should say some folks are complaining, but others have not smelled it. I was wondering if anyone can smell it down near the water in Cape Coral or Fort Myers. They say it is very noticeable when the ocean breezes come in.

[scott26]

I am still waiting for the post blaming the City of Cape Coral on the oil spill.

[Compression]

Originally Posted by hiknapster

Article II of the US Constitution makes the President of the United State of America Commander-in-Chief of the US armed forces. Specifically, Article II, Section 2, Clause I.

But...moving on, up in the Sarasota forum they are complaining about the smell of oil. Well, I should say some folks are complaining, but others have not smelled it. I was wondering if anyone can smell it down near the water in Cape Coral or Fort Myers. They say it is very noticeable when the ocean breezes come in.

I'm aware of who the CinC is, but the oath still goes to the Constitution, not the individual. The Whermacht swore their oath directly to Adolf Hitler, we all know how well that worked out for everyone....just sayin'....

I understand 121's explanation however, I did my military stint with the group under the DoT at the time, as opposed to the DoD, but the rules were the same.

Soon after the rig sank, and the spill started there were reports on the local news here that the oil could be smelled on the sea breeze in the afternoons. I've never noticed it myself. But admitedly, my alergies are still giving me heck lately. Havent heard it mentioned in a couple weeks now.

YC.......

BTW Scott, everything is the city of Cape Coral's fault

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by mrcoolmrcool28

This just in, Fox News is reporting that the tar balls washing up on the Keys are NOT from the Deepwater Horizon spill, samples show a different kind of oil... experts are not sure where they came from. Natural seepage maybe?

The story is also posted on the Wall Street Journal Market watch website.

I sort of think the story to which you're referring is overshadowed by the one that thick oil has washed ashore in Louisiana.

Louisiana shore sees heavy oil as BP prepares plug - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100520/ts_nm/us_oil_rig_leak - broken link)

Or perhaps the fact that the NOAA has confirmed that the oil sheen is in the Loop Current doesn't make the announcement that the tar balls aren't from the rig very comforting.

[URL="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-noaa-confirms-oil-sheen-is-in-loop-current.html"]Gulf oil spill: NOAA confirms oil sheen is in Loop Current | Greenspace | Los Angeles Times[/URL]

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by rikoshaprl

It's been a year and a half since Obama's election. You can't just keep blaming Bush for everything. If Obama is so smart why didn't he change the way the drilling is overseen. He must have been satisfied with the system if he approved a massive expansion of offshore drilling. He must have at least looked into it right? Did he make any changes before the spill?

Why do you continue to put words in my virtual mouth? I never said Obama is blameless. It would be like saying Bush was completely responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis. Yet when the economy collapsed, a lot of people started to blame Carter, Clinton and Obama. They seem to leave out leaders from the other party whenever there's a crisis.

This opinion, written by Alan Farago of Friends of the Everglades, pretty much sums it up for me.

[URL="http://www.counterpunch.org/farago05192010.html"]The Tragedy of Managed Expectations in the Gulf[/URL]

"There is a good reason that BP has been allowed by the federal government and agencies to run the show in the Gulf of Mexico. Government, with failure built into its operation and capacity, has been infested with fear, paranoia, careerism and padded with inefficiency for so long, and pushed down by industry and the wages of lobbyists, that the question arises: who is there to make decisions except by committee, except by waffling."

[rikoshaprl]

Originally Posted by justNancy

"There is a good reason that BP has been allowed by the federal government and agencies to run the show in the Gulf of Mexico. Government, with failure built into its operation and capacity, has been infested with fear, paranoia, careerism and padded with inefficiency for so long, and pushed down by industry and the wages of lobbyists, that the question arises: who is there to make decisions except by committee, except by waffling."

I couldn't agree more!

[kroeran]

Originally Posted by yachtcare

Actually that link works well if you eliminate one of the "http" lines at the beginning.

Not sure what it has to do with oil in the gulf, but I may look into it.

Personally, I would recommend Yoko for the job. I'm busy implementing an escape plan, and prefer to maintain a low profile at the moment. I've learned the hard way that asking too many questions, or fielding a complaint in Cape Coral only invites the wrath and increased scrutiny of the local gestapo.

YC.......

yes, if you are going to take on city hall face on, batten down the hatches and prepare to get hammered - not wise if you are vulnerable and don't have high financial walls around you and a deep moat

however, when citizens fear their government more than government fears its voters...you have a system that is in trouble

my advice is rather get on the inside rather than be on the outside pissing in. Volunteer on a campaign of a candidate that you respect, who is not a hopeless case.

there is also the added benefit that a lot of networking and business gets done in political circles (at all levels) and you get laid a lot, should that be of any interest

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by kroeran

there is also the added benefit that a lot of networking and business gets done in political circles (at all levels) and you get laid a lot, should that be of any interest

At least they're getting some pleasure from it, unlike when the government screws us. They keep getting laid while we keep getting laid off.

[hiknapster]

You never cease to amaze me, and I mean that in a good way. I know networking is great when you run in political circles. I didn't know about the laid part, but then again, in my previous career I would have been the last to know.

Many years ago, I heard about an elderly couple that complained relentlessly to the powers that be in Cape Coral and it didn't have a very happy ending. Scary, scary stuff.

Originally Posted by kroeran

yes, if you are going to take on city hall face on, batten down the hatches and prepare to get hammered - not wise if you are vulnerable and don't have high financial walls around you and a deep moat

however, when citizens fear their government more than government fears its voters...you have a system that is in trouble

my advice is rather get on the inside rather than be on the outside pissing in. Volunteer on a campaign of a candidate that you respect, who is not a hopeless case.

there is also the added benefit that a lot of networking and business gets done in political circles (at all levels) and you get laid a lot, should that be of any interest

[kroeran]

Originally Posted by justNancy

At least they're getting some pleasure from it, unlike when the government screws us. They keep getting laid while we keep getting laid off.

when companies screw up, they eventually end up paying for it
when governments screw up, the taxpayers end up paying for it
which is the logic for fearing government more than fearing corporations

as far as the getting laid part, I learned that too late for that knowledge to benefit me! (happily and very married)