Renaming of Governor Thomas Johnson High and Middle (Cumberland: wages, dangerous)

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by Chief Sipwiaac

Um, "Ne·gro /ˈnēɡrō/ DATED•OFFENSIVE noun a member of a dark-skinned group of peoples originally native to Africa south of the Sahara."

Not on the same level as the n word, but still generally considered derogatory.

Also used as the name for the color black in Spanish.

https://www.spanishdict.com/translate/black

[Chief Sipwiaac]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

Also used as the name for the color black in Spanish.

https://www.spanishdict.com/translate/black

I mean, sure, but that's not the context here.

[bus man]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

Mosby from Baltimore City didn't care. I think his line was something like "We don't where or exactly when Nememisis was lynched on that mountain, but we are determined to find out."

Marilyn Mosby ranks fairly high on the list of what's wrong with Baltimore. Sadly, it's too much to expect for her to just shut her pie-hole when she doesn't know what she's talking about, which is most of the time.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by bus man

Marilyn Mosby ranks fairly high on the list of what's wrong with Baltimore. Sadly, it's too much to expect for her to just shut her pie-hole when she doesn't know what she's talking about, which is most of the time.

Not Marilyn, Nick.

[bus man]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

Not Marilyn, Nick.

Oh, OK, I'm not all that familiar with him. But he married Marilyn, so at the very least, his personal tastes are questionable.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by bus man

Oh, OK, I'm not all that familiar with him. But he married Marilyn, so at the very least, his personal tastes are questionable.

It's just a s__t show. You have a transplant drama professor who fancies herself a historian and race expert literally making stuff up (you will find zero lynchings occurred in Garrett County,) and ignoring primary source records from the 18th century that describe exactly why the mountains was named as it was, and who it was meant to honor.

The play is to get it changed to "Frederick Douglass Mtn." He was a great man, no doubt. But Nememsis was a local hero of color, a sort of antidote to the idea that Western Maryland was/is some cell of racism and hatred. Imagine being called a "racist" because your community wanted to honor a black man, and somebody 200+ years later finds it racist, then tries to erase and cast shade on said "Black Hero" because of a drama teacher's uncited historical rumour mongering.

But......as I said.......who cares at this point? The general assembly needs to change it and move on to the next statue to topple, preferably somewhere else.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

It's just a s__t show. You have a transplant drama professor who fancies herself a historian and race expert literally making stuff up (you will find zero lynchings occurred in Garrett County,) and ignoring primary source records from the 18th century that describe exactly why the mountains was named as it was, and who it was meant to honor.

The play is to get it changed to "Frederick Douglass Mtn." He was a great man, no doubt. But Nememsis was a local hero of color, a sort of antidote to the idea that Western Maryland was/is some cell of racism and hatred. Imagine being called a "racist" because your community wanted to honor a black man, and somebody 200+ years later finds it racist, then tries to erase and cast shade on said "Black Hero" because of a drama teacher's uncited historical rumour mongering.

But......as I said.......who cares at this point? The general assembly needs to change it and move on to the next statue to topple, preferably somewhere else.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is the state is a non-player in this as far as changing the name of any geologic feature. That's the purview of the US Geologic Service (USGS).

As far as the details of why of the name goes, never let the truth get in the way of the narrative.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

I may be wrong, but my understanding is the state is a non-player in this as far as changing the name of any geologic feature. That's the purview of the US Geologic Service (USGS).

As far as the details of why of the name goes, never let the truth get in the way of the narrative.

Nobody is going to stop the state from passing a bill calling that ridge something and putting up a sign to the same effect. Whether it formally appears on USGS maps isn't much of a factor, and I believe (but am too lazy to look up) that USGS is forming some sort of faster acting panel to look at offending place names.

No, facts didn't matter much when the bill was introduced last year. I can only assume they will matter less this year.

[bus man]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

IBut......as I said.......who cares at this point? The general assembly needs to change it and move on to the next statue to topple, preferably somewhere else.

I sure hope you folks in Cumberland are keeping a close eye on the statue of the canal worker and his mule, in front of the train station. No doubt someone's going to decide that it's racist, somehow, sooner or later.

[JamesInDC]

If we cancelled every person who was associated with slavery or some other kind of evil from our history, this country wouldn't exist.

Even prominent African-American leaders from our history had aspects of their lives that were questionable.

We can't delete the good, bad and our mistakes from our past. It's made us who we are now.