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Old 08-02-2007, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs,CO
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Not necessarily. Scranton housed nearly 150,000 residents at its peak and has a latest population estimate of 67,000. Nevertheless, the city is far from a ghost town---there's just a lot of single-family homes in the city that once housed large younger families that now house only one person.
So the population is probably older then.

 
Old 08-02-2007, 06:54 PM
 
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Can't believe Belle Glade, FL has not been mentioned yet. Homicide rate is not too bad, but man, its dirty. Think more "Rural Honduras" than "Queensbridge."
Crime in Belle Glade by Year
Type 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
Murders 1 2 2 0 1 2 2
per 100,000 5.7 11.3 13.1 0.0 6.5 12.9 12.8
Rapes 15 8 12 14 9 10 9
per 100,000 86.0 45.2 78.5 89.8 58.1 64.3 57.5
Robberies 91 72 65 96 149 71 77
per 100,000 521.5 406.8 425.1 615.9 962.3 456.8 491.6
Assaults 335 261 255 397 302 306 285
per 100,000 1919.9 1474.7 1667.5 2546.8 1950.5 1968.6 1819.5
Burglaries 427 426 304 531 455 271 357
per 100,000 2447.1 2406.9 1988.0 3406.5 2938.7 1743.4 2279.1
Thefts 908 927 558 829 982 936 935
per 100,000 5203.7 5237.6 3649.0 5318.2 6342.4 6021.6 5969.1
Auto thefts 96 112 81 94 111 79 82
per 100,000 550.2 632.8 529.7 603.0 716.9 508.2 523.5
Arson 8 13 14 7 11 5 10
per 100,000 45.8 73.5 91.6 44.9 71.0 32.2 63.8
City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 325.2) 1044.1 904.3 877.5 1265.4 1255.0 1011.5 1023.0
 
Old 08-02-2007, 07:11 PM
 
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That crime rate is still less than half of East St Louis. I havent seen a city with a higher crime rate than ESL yet. Or any that have come close.
 
Old 08-02-2007, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs,CO
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I'll try and look for one razzy but I don't think any cities have a higher crime rate.
 
Old 08-02-2007, 07:17 PM
 
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Crime in East St. Louis by Year
Type 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
Murders 19 17 17 18 14 20 20
per 100,000 51.8 53.9 53.9 57.1 45.2 65.4 66.1
Rapes 70 73 71 72 53 72 108
per 100,000 191.0 231.4 225.1 228.3 171.0 235.5 356.8
Robberies 224 212 269 207 106 240 301
per 100,000 611.1 672.1 852.8 656.3 342.0 785.0 994.5
Assaults 1,995 1,905 1,589 1,476 922 1,934 2,047
per 100,000 5442.5 6039.6 5037.7 4679.5 2974.7 6325.8 6763.4
Burglaries 991 1,067 1,141 889 330 930 795
per 100,000 2703.5 3382.8 3617.4 2818.5 1064.7 3041.9 2626.7
Thefts 750 753 755 645 330 812 813
per 100,000 2046.0 2387.3 2393.6 2044.9 1064.7 2655.9 2686.2
Auto thefts 632 734 1,079 811 547 621 631
per 100,000 1724.1 2327.1 3420.8 2571.2 1764.8 2031.2 2084.8
Arson 34 28 52 39 21 46 46
per 100,000 92.8 88.8 164.9 123.6 67.8 150.5 152.0
City-data.com crime index (higher means more crime, U.S. average = 325.2) 1937.3 2220.9 2173.9 1914.3 1183.0 2301.6 2526.8

Wow.....

are there an unusually high amount of commercial areas in E. St. Louis?
 
Old 08-02-2007, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs,CO
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Thats crime for a city of over 200,000 minus the crime rate.Thats not good at all.
 
Old 08-02-2007, 07:40 PM
 
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Wow.....

are there an unusually high amount of commercial areas in E. St. Louis?
No, there is hardly any commercial left there. There isnt anything left there, really. The casino is about the main thing there, and it is on the riverfront, separate from the rest of ESL.
 
Old 08-02-2007, 07:57 PM
 
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Alright, so not much to rob/burglarize proportionate to its population....

Do they have people living in shacks (or at its best, in run down concrete block bunker-like homes with security bars) like Belle Glade?
 
Old 08-02-2007, 08:39 PM
 
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Alright, so not much to rob/burglarize proportionate to its population....

Do they have people living in shacks (or at its best, in run down concrete block bunker-like homes with security bars) like Belle Glade?
Well, I'm not sure what they are robbing, but the place has 4-6 robberies a week, according to the crime stats, and that is astounding for a city of 30,000 that doesnt have a lot of commercial. The auto theft rate also seems very high. Two to three cars a day ripped off. Much of the other crimes are related to gangs and drugs.

As posted on page one of this thread, here is a photo tour of the city. Built St. Louis: East St. Louis

The city used to have a pretty nice housing stock, many years ago, so its not so much that there are shacks there as it is that the housing just hasnt been kept up, in general.
 
Old 08-02-2007, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs,CO
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East Cleveland,not eastside Cleveland,is pretty bad.Im pretty sure so far in 2007 there has been between 3-8 Homicides,its only got a population of like 24,000.I've even heard it compared to East St. Louis before.But its like one of 4 bad suburbs in Cuyahoga county.Some of the other suburbs are statrting to have more problems,but for the most part are relatively safe.Kinsman is probably the worst of the worst in Cleveland,I forget what neighborhood Kinsman is in.But its sad because alot of Cleveland's bad neighborhoods were still good in the early '60s.By the mid '60s things started getting bad for Cleveland.
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