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I was shocked that only 23% of whites in Harris County voted for Obama. I would expect a city that voted for Annise Parker to be a bit more "liberal" than that. From the time I've spent in Houston, it didn't feel overly conservative or evangelical, at least not compared to Oklahoma City. ?
I lived in Houston when Anise was first elected, but I can tell you she is considerably more conservative than most other big city mayors. I know much has been made about Anise being a lesbian, but she was largely silent on LGBT issues until she was safely reelected into her final term. If Houston voters were more liberal, they wouldn't have overwhelmingly rescinded the city's laws protecting their fellow LGBT citizens and visitors.
To me its independent of the politics of the local government of the city but more of the general population. Liberal cities have more relaxed views on things like drugs and sex, ( and rock and roll) and people tend to be more pro-choice, pro-LGBT rights, more conscious on racial issues. Liberal cities generally have an educated populace (thanks to a local university for the most part), tend to have an importance on the arts and literature. There's a more secular way of life, and its not that its full of atheists, its that liberal cities often come with a diversity of religious beliefs, like Catholics, Jews, Muslims, various Protestant denominations, and other religions and when you have such diversity there's no overwhelming religious body.
There's different kinds of liberal though. You got people who you would describe as liberal, not because they're very supportive of certain issues because because they're not very anti-certain issues. There's lots of people in liberal cities who do not oppose abortion, but are not pro-choice either, at least not in a self descriptive way. Their opinion is "Do what you want." Or those who don't oppose gay marriage but wouldn't care to show up to a gay pride parade, or voice support for the LGBT community. But to them its an issue that doesn't bother them so why oppose it. Their train of thought is "Don't bother my ass what strangers are doin'." They may even hold slightly homophobic (though not extremely) views but they're the "IDGAF" type liberals. And they have a point, if you're not gay, why do you care what gay people do? But I digress.
Then you get the politically involved liberals who are more likely to protest against an injustice, or be very supportive of a certain cause. Some of them are the ones who take it too far, the SJWs, and some are the obnoxious pretentious hipsters, but a lot of them are just regular, cool people. I personally prefer a Midwestern or Northeastern flavour of liberal than the West Coast type. The latter is a little too far left in general for my taste.
Me a white person doesn't like being liberal areas (Seattle) because I got "crap" for being white, the city doesn't seemed managed reasonably at all, it's like everything is okay/no standards, and lastly, I find the people to be kinda weird.... I mean they are nice(unless they are talking about you being white) but they are super weird.......
Interesting. I've had similar experiences in Long Beach, CA.
Long Beach, by the way, is an extremely liberal city that has very little interest in environmental conservation. So, not every liberal (or conservative) city adheres to the set of attitudes one might expect.
The term "liberal" makes me cringe and I used to be a Democrat. I get a kick out of people who think "liberal" means better. Like everyone else in the world is, to quote another thread, "out of the movie Deliverance" or part of the KKK. As an Independent, I have found the most racist, uneducated (a college education means someone has been brainwashed), materialistic, and close minded individuals are liberals.
Hipster (aka liberal yuppies) cities make my skin crawl. It's why I want to find a place in the suburbs. Thanks Liberals. You have turned me into a suburbanite.
The term "liberal" makes me cringe and I used to be a Democrat. I get a kick out of people who think "liberal" means better. Like everyone else in the world is, to quote another thread, "out of the movie Deliverance" or part of the KKK. As an Independent, I have found the most racist, uneducated (a college education means someone has been brainwashed), materialistic, and close minded individuals are liberals.
Hipster (aka liberal yuppies) cities make my skin crawl. It's why I want to find a place in the suburbs. Thanks Liberals. You have turned me into a suburbanite.
The term "liberal" makes me cringe and I used to be a Democrat. I get a kick out of people who think "liberal" means better. Like everyone else in the world is, to quote another thread, "out of the movie Deliverance" or part of the KKK. As an Independent, I have found the most racist, uneducated (a college education means someone has been brainwashed), materialistic, and close minded individuals are liberals.
Hipster (aka liberal yuppies) cities make my skin crawl. It's why I want to find a place in the suburbs. Thanks Liberals. You have turned me into a suburbanite.
Dude, I can't stand yuppies either, or hipsters, however to think a "college education makes you brainwashed" is just close minded and nothing short of "wearing a tin foil hat" nutjobbery.
Pretty much every college professor I have had, encouraged us to form our own independent opinion and think for ourselves. I even had a liberal college professor who was pro-life and encouraged us to form our own opinion on abortion based on facts. Not sure where you're getting the idea that college is brainwashing. If anyone is doing any brainwashing its probably peer to peer, because respectable educators encourage individual thought. If you wanna talk about REAL brainwashing, look at television media.
I guess it depends on how you are interpreting the word "liberal". Are you interpreting it in the traditional sense, i.e. open to new ideas? Or are you interpreting it in the sense that is has come to be widely used and understood, as in "politically democratic"?
I personally assume people are using it in the sense that it is widely used nowadays so I would say voting records is your best indicator. And that certainly holds true when i think back to cities I lived in- the voting records gave an accurate representation of political discourse/consensus for each city.
Dude, I can't stand yuppies either, or hipsters, however to think a "college education makes you brainwashed" is just close minded and nothing short of "wearing a tin foil hat" nutjobbery.
Pretty much every college professor I have had, encouraged us to form our own independent opinion and think for ourselves. I even had a liberal college professor who was pro-life and encouraged us to form our own opinion on abortion based on facts. Not sure where you're getting the idea that college is brainwashing. If anyone is doing any brainwashing its probably peer to peer, because respectable educators encourage individual thought. If you wanna talk about REAL brainwashing, look at television media.
I will give popular examples: food industry and home construction. I have lost count of the kids who come out of college (and those that post on here) wanting to live off the land and have absolutely no clue as to the basics of home construction or farming. Their professors have fed them all this tiny home, sustainable living bs that is not applicable to the real world.
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