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They're both probably more integrated with Chicago at this point than they were in the past, even with the distance. The highways are jammed daily due to commuters coming in from both of them, they're connected to the city via the Metra system, and they're both in the collar counties.
They might be a hike from the Loop, but they're very much apart of Chicagoland, and I have yet to meet someone from either place who considers themselves to not be from the Chicago area.
I'd agree. Driving on south on 55, once you get pastJoliet, that's when you really feel like you've "left" Chicagoland; a little less so on 88 west past Aurora (there's still Dekalb), but it's still a pretty strong demarcation.
I think Atlanta takes the cake....5.7 million people in the metro, less than 500,000 in Atlanta with Sandy Springs being the only other city over 100,000 in the area.
Considering actual municipalities, DC isn't too far behind; outside of DC itself, Alexandria is the only incorporated municipality over 100K in the MSA.
New York MSA: Second largest city, Newark, NJ. 3.2% of the principal city.
Los Angeles MSA: Second largest city, Long Beach. 11.8% of the principal city.
Chicago MSA: Second Largest city, Aurora. 7.3% of the principal city.
Dallas MSA: Second largest city, Fort Worth. 64.0% of the principal city.
Houston MSA: Second largest city, The Woodlands. 4.8% of the principal city.
Washington MSA: Second largest city, Arlington, VA. 34.0% of the principal city.
Philadelphia MSA: Second largest city, Camden, NJ. 4.8% of the principal city.
Miami MSA: Second largest city, Hialeah. 54.7% of the principal city.
Atlanta MSA: Second largest city, Sandy Springs. 22.7% of the principal city.
Boston MSA: Second largest city, Wooster. 27.9 of the principal city.
San Francisco MSA: Second largest city, Oakland. 48.4% of the principal city.
Phoenix MSA: Second largest city, Mesa. 30.1% of the principal city.
Inland Empire MSA: San Bernardino is 67.0% of Riverside. Riverside is 8.1% of Los Angeles.
Detroit MSA: Second largest city, Sterling Heights. 19.5% of the principal city.
Seattle MSA: Second largest city, Tacoma. 30.3% of the principal city.
Twins cities MSA: Second largest city, St. Paul. 73.2% of the principal city.
Actually for Philly Reading PA would be the largest satellite city with about 90K or about 5.5% the population, Allentown would be larger but was moved to the NYC CSA from Philly historically. Not sure what these mean as most municipalities are really small (land wise) in this area outside the core city
Actually for Philly Reading PA would be the largest satellite city with about 90K or about 5.5% the population
I should probably know that since I'm from Central Jersey originally I tried my best and used census estimates for the numbers but by no means is it perfect.
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Actually for Philly Reading PA would be the largest satellite city with about 90K or about 5.5% the population, Allentown would be larger but was moved to the NYC CSA from Philly historically. Not sure what these mean as most municipalities are really small (land wise) in this area outside the core city
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I should probably know that since I'm from Central Jersey originally I tried my best and used census estimates for the numbers but by no means is it perfect.
Actually, Reading is only in the Philadelphia CSA, not MSA.
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I tried my best and used census estimates for the numbers but by no means is it perfect.
