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Old 05-21-2017, 05:17 PM
 
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It's a good thing this is the internet and names are anonymous, because I would be embarrassed to show your face if I were you.

Fenway is not more beloved than Old Yankee Stadium. That's just laughable.

You are a living embodiment of why Boston is so overrated, because you stop at literally nothing to boost it.

Honestly, your delusions would work well in the White House.
Honestly what's your deal? The word Boston can't be mentioned on this board without 75 follow up posts from you. Why do you spend so much time talking about a place you hate?
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Old 05-21-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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Honestly what's your deal? The word Boston can't be mentioned on this board without 75 follow up posts from you. Why do you spend so much time talking about a place you hate?

Because btownboss has his head so far up his ass and there are plenty of other places deserving of praise.
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Old 05-21-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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Pittsburgh is the best 3 team sports city. Easily a top 10 sports city in America.
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:48 PM
 
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It's a good thing this is the internet and names are anonymous, because I would be embarrassed to show your face if I were you.

Fenway is not more beloved than Old Yankee Stadium. That's just laughable.

You are a living embodiment of why Boston is so overrated, because you stop at literally nothing to boost it.

Honestly, your delusions would work well in the White House.
There is a reason Fenway still exists and Yankee Staduim does not. The Sox and Yankees both had plenty of money, but the people of Boston cared about Fenway. New Yorkers don't care about landmarks, look at Penn Station.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:12 PM
 
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Fenway is much more beloved than Yankee Staduim it's not even close. In the 90s/early 2000s the fans, and even the Mayor and Governors mobilized to stop the Red Sox from getting a new Staduim and stay st Fenway. While New Yorkers let the Yankees bulldoze 80 years of tradition.

MSG is revered in the NBA and NHL and the Rangers and knicks are largely trash.

Dude, you're so full of ****. The city government supported a new ballpark, as noted below. The only thing that saved it was time. It took a lot of time and eventually Harrington just put the team up for sale in October of 2000.

He Saved Fenway Park | Sports Media Guide

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Fenway Park was to be bulldozed, and moreover, the public was to pay for it. Harrington and his team of lobbyists had somehow convinced the town that the only feasible option for the park was to tear it down. No one could tell him otherwise. Every study he had commissioned, independent, or otherwise had reached the same conclusion: the park was too old. Or so we were told. With the Governor, the Speaker of the House, the Senate President, and the Mayor all supporting the plan to replace Fenway Park, I found myself a lone political voice asking the question, “Do we really want to do this?”
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That’s when I learned yet another important lesson in politics: sometimes time is your best friend. Drag your feet and the world is your oyster. In October, Harrington announced that the Red Sox were for sale. His announcement may have signaled his capitulation to the council’s opposition. Or, perhaps he just gave in to a growing consensus that the plan passed by the legislature was insufficient to build a new ballpark. I like to think he just got tired of waiting. Time had worn him down. Government time moves more slowly than private sector time. It’s the rare executive with the patience to outwait a bunch of stubborn city councilors.
You're embarrassing yourself and yet you don't even care. You really need to stop.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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There is a reason Fenway still exists and Yankee Staduim does not. The Sox and Yankees both had plenty of money, but the people of Boston cared about Fenway. New Yorkers don't care about landmarks, look at Penn Station.

Yet Boston has no problems tearing down it's history for luxury condos. That's rich.

New York doesn't have to rely on an outdated ballpark for tourism. Our politicians understood the need for a new stadium, because it brings in more money with modern amenities.

Lots of praise for a new modern ballpark. It was going to be done whether or not the public wanted it. Harrington just ended up selling it to a few guys who were impressed with some of the opposition. They have since admitted the current ballpark will be replaced at some point.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/1...BPK/story.html
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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Yet Boston has no problems tearing down it's history for luxury condos. That's rich.

New York doesn't have to rely on an outdated ballpark for tourism. Our politicians understood the need for a new stadium, because it brings in more money with modern amenities.

Lots of praise for a new modern ballpark. It was going to be done whether or not the public wanted it. Harrington just ended up selling it to a few guys who were impressed with some of the opposition. They have since admitted the current ballpark will be replaced at some point.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/1...BPK/story.html
Not everything is worth saving, like the tenements that were the west end. But certain places, the Uinion Oyster House, Customs House, old State House etc are going to be preserved.

What you don't seem to understand Fenway and Wrigly are special because they don't have 40 pennants or 27 WS. The Fans have their ballpark though. It's a sense of place that just doesn't exist at say Tropicana or even AT&T (the latter has seen success).

Yeah and a New Park helps the Sox but not really the city.
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Old 05-22-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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Yet Boston has no problems tearing down it's history for luxury condos. That's rich.

New York doesn't have to rely on an outdated ballpark for tourism. Our politicians understood the need for a new stadium, because it brings in more money with modern amenities.

Lots of praise for a new modern ballpark. It was going to be done whether or not the public wanted it. Harrington just ended up selling it to a few guys who were impressed with some of the opposition. They have since admitted the current ballpark will be replaced at some point.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/1...BPK/story.html
No large city needs a ballpark for tourism. But they BUILD NEW LARGER ONES THAT STILL are lucrative for the city DRAWING VISITORS. NYC still should have saved Yankee stadium as maybe a Baseball museum Hall of Fame. Irreverent now. Just my opinion.

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Dude, you're so full of ****. The city government supported a new ballpark, as noted below. The only thing that saved it was time. It took a lot of time and eventually Harrington just put the team up for sale in October of 2000.

He Saved Fenway Park | Sports Media Guide
With the city government of Chicago and Wrigley owner. The City FOUGHT threats of the Franchise to move to a suburb willing to give land free for a new stadium. But the owner of Wrigley really DID NOT want to move. Just use leverage to get a new scoreboard and Jumbotron built. In that he won and INSTANTLY WRIGLEY WAS TO BE RESTORED FULLY.

The Owner also did not want some cement shoes and a swim in the Chicago river.... A large new hotel is currently being built next to Wrigley too. I believe the Franchise owner is also building the hotel.

Wrigley is in a highly sought after city neighborhood and is restored for more decades of use. This despite no real parking even. As for tourism. Tourist surely visiting Chicago want to see Wrigley too. Wrigley is SO REVERED BY BASEBALL LOVERS. Tripadvior places Wrigley as the #4 of 638 things to do in Chicago .

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti..._Illinois.html

Spare us a relic and boast... that a mighty NYC never would need a mere ballpark for tourism .... Wrigley's esteem is not because the city lacks anything for tourist. It is a testament to baseball alone that Tourist must see.
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Not everything is worth saving, like the tenements that were the west end. But certain places, the Uinion Oyster House, Customs House, old State House etc are going to be preserved.

What you don't seem to understand Fenway and Wrigley are special because they don't have 40 pennants or 27 WS. The Fans have their ballpark though. It's a sense of place that just doesn't exist at say Tropicana or even AT&T (the latter has seen success).

Yeah and a New Park helps the Sox but not really the city.
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