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Between San Diego, San Antonio, Orlando, Columbus, or Greensboro-Winston Salem, which 3rd metro area is the most overshadowed in their state? Since this forum is obsessed with hierarchy, here’s another one to consider haha.
I'll tell you which one is NOT: Orlando. If anything, Tampa (the 2nd in the state) is the one that's often overshadowed.
You took the words right out of my mouth. As for who’s most overshadowed I’d go with San Diego simply for the fact that Los Angeles and San Francisco are on a different level nationally and globally than Dallas and Houston.
I think TacoSoup has a point in that San Diego would be correct because of how much ahead LA and the Bay Area are, but an interesting point is that, at least in my view San Antonio is also overshadowed by the fourth city, Austin, much more than San Diego is by Sacramento in the national spotlight.
I'll tell you which one is NOT: Orlando. If anything, Tampa (the 2nd in the state) is the one that's often overshadowed.
Agree. Tampa is the afterthought.
Will say it's not San Antonio either. It has Seaworld, Fiesta Texas, a very distinct skyline, and a Hispanic culture. Dallas and Houston to me, while more prosperous, tend to be looked upon as generic sun belt cities.
I think TacoSoup has a point in that San Diego would be correct because of how much ahead LA and the Bay Area are, but an interesting point is that, at least in my view San Antonio is also overshadowed by the fourth city, Austin, much more than San Diego is by Sacramento in the national spotlight.
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I'll tell you which one is NOT: Orlando. If anything, Tampa (the 2nd in the state) is the one that's often overshadowed.
What is interesting is that both of these assessments are correct. I think Austin to an extent overshadows San Antonio nationally, while Orlando overshadows Tampa nationally. If it weren't for being a population nerd, there would be questions on what the actual third cities are in Texas and Florida. What's interesting to consider that Tampa/Orlando and San Antonio/Austin are so close together that they may eventually just blur into one area, but that's another discussion for another day.
With Ohio and North Carolina, the cities are all most bunched together in the national consciousness even though there's a clear 1, 2, 3 order to them.
California is interesting. San Diego is a major city and no one is going to dispute that, and it could be the anchor city of a major state, but LA and the Bay Area have so much more economic and media presence that its almost forgotten. Shoot, until this week, I forgot San Diego still had a major sports team until Manny Machado signed there (congrats on that BTW). Technically, San Diego is a binational area that has 5.5 million people, but it doesn't have the presence of an area that has 5.5 million people. San Diegans seem content with that though, but I always wondered why it didn't get more praise.
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Agree. Tampa is the afterthought.
Will say it's not San Antonio either. It has Seaworld, Fiesta Texas, a very distinct skyline, and a Hispanic culture. Dallas and Houston to me, while more prosperous, tend to be looked upon as generic sun belt cities.
That's a weird dynamic too. The Texas 3rd/4th cities seem to have all the positive media vibes and tourist attractions than the 1 and 2 cities. Florida, Miami hogs all of that. North Carolina and Ohio just aren't talked about much. California, all the tourist attractions are in 1 and 2
I guess there's really only a clear defined hierarchy in California.
What is interesting is that both of these assessments are correct. I think Austin to an extent overshadows San Antonio nationally, while Orlando overshadows Tampa nationally. If it weren't for being a population nerd, there would be questions on what the actual third cities are in Texas and Florida. What's interesting to consider that Tampa/Orlando and San Antonio/Austin are so close together that they may eventually just blur into one area, but that's another discussion for another day.
With Ohio and North Carolina, the cities are all most bunched together in the national consciousness even though there's a clear 1, 2, 3 order to them.
California is interesting. San Diego is a major city and no one is going to dispute that, and it could be the anchor city of a major state, but LA and the Bay Area have so much more economic and media presence that its almost forgotten. Shoot, until this week, I forgot San Diego still had a major sports team until Manny Machado signed there (congrats on that BTW). Technically, San Diego is a binational area that has 5.5 million people, but it doesn't have the presence of an area that has 5.5 million people. San Diegans seem content with that though, but I always wondered why it didn't get more praise.
There's no gap between Austin and SA. Just one big sprawl.
On the national level, San Antonio is usurped by Austin and the Triad is unthought of outside NC. Probably can’t go wrong with either, though at least San Antonio’s has the Spurs Duncan going for it. All the Triad got was the Wake Duncan who never did diddly in March.
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