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Old 01-16-2020, 03:16 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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NH is not exactly a red state and I question how much of a "Live Free or Die" state it actually is.
Go on the NH forum some time. I know not everyone there is a redneck but when you get all those gun shops you know it's not too blue. Towns like Exeter or Stratham are probably blue but get out into the country and it's RED. They even talk about The Volvo line--the dividing line between progressives and rednecks.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:27 PM
 
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Go on the NH forum some time. I know not everyone there is a redneck but when you get all those gun shops you know it's not too blue. Towns like Exeter or Stratham are probably blue but get out into the country and it's RED. They even talk about The Volvo line--the dividing line between progressives and rednecks.
NH went blue even in 2016, the worst year for the Dems since 2004

Sure there may be rednecks, but that is also true of New York. It doesn't seem like a red state, nor a "Live Free or Die" state.
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Old 01-16-2020, 07:17 PM
 
Location: NC But Soon, The Desert
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Don't come to NC. Most Whites over 30 tend to be rigidly conservative, and many Blacks don't give a damn. White people are far more into politics than any other ethnic group, in my experience. It's all my fiance and his Trump worshiping friends & family post idiotic memes about on Facebook. It gets very tiresome - like CD whining about taxes, QOL, and liberals.
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Old 01-16-2020, 07:42 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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NH went blue even in 2016, the worst year for the Dems since 2004

Sure there may be rednecks, but that is also true of New York. It doesn't seem like a red state, nor a "Live Free or Die" state.
It carried the red state label for a good while since it went for Bush in 2000, that made it an outlier in the Northeast as every other Northeastern state including Pennsylvania went blue that year, except New Hampshire. A lot of Mass transplants I know that moved to NH are conservative and many have a counter-Massachusetts viewpoint and many express their outright disdain for Mass. Still die hard Boston sports fans though.

No doubt demographics have changed in NH since 2000 and it is shifting blue, but the pendulum still swings there. Kelly Ayotte is not that far past tense and the governor is quite conservative, and it's also an open carry state. But to the OP's point whom is looking for least political state, anyone whose been in NH in recent months knows how politically charged it can get there and how much it saturates the local media. Probably not the best choice for "least" political because New Hampshire is not that.

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Old 01-16-2020, 11:45 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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NH is purple for national elections as far as I know...would have to consult a more detailed map to see the precinct-by-precinct variance. Assume urban versus rural divide holds there as it does basically everywhere else. Southern NH cities should be blue; everywhere else, probably red. They famously decided the 2000 Bush v Gore election by voting far too much for Nader given the pragmatic circumstances....
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Old 01-17-2020, 05:36 AM
 
Location: NC
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Pick a place where people don’t watch cable news, don’t read nonfiction books, and don’t do cute little quizzes or play games on facebook. Those people will still tend to have similar points of reference and be either blissfully unaware of forces dividing the country or not have been subjected to dangerous filtering algorithms that distort the truth.

Wish i could find that place myself.
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Don't come to NC. Most Whites over 30 tend to be rigidly conservative, and many Blacks don't give a damn. White people are far more into politics than any other ethnic group, in my experience. It's all my fiance and his Trump worshiping friends & family post idiotic memes about on Facebook. It gets very tiresome - like CD whining about taxes, QOL, and liberals.
Maybe you should break your engagement if you feel that way about him.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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NH is turning more and more blue.
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:47 PM
 
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It carried the red state label for a good while since it went for Bush in 2000, that made it an outlier in the Northeast as every other Northeastern state including Pennsylvania went blue that year, except New Hampshire. A lot of Mass transplants I know that moved to NH are conservative and many have a counter-Massachusetts viewpoint and many express their outright disdain for Mass. Still die hard Boston sports fans though.

No doubt demographics have changed in NH since 2000 and it is shifting blue, but the pendulum still swings there. Kelly Ayotte is not that far past tense and the governor is quite conservative, and it's also an open carry state. But to the OP's point whom is looking for least political state, anyone whose been in NH in recent months knows how politically charged it can get there and how much it saturates the local media. Probably not the best choice for "least" political because New Hampshire is not that.
I get what you're saying, I just think that the state leans blue overall.

As for "Live Free or Die", that is laughable. Nevada is by far the more libertarian state.
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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NH is purple for national elections as far as I know...would have to consult a more detailed map to see the precinct-by-precinct variance. Assume urban versus rural divide holds there as it does basically everywhere else. Southern NH cities should be blue; everywhere else, probably red. They famously decided the 2000 Bush v Gore election by voting far too much for Nader given the pragmatic circumstances....
Uh, the "exurbs" of Boston in southern NH have tended to be the most Republican parts of the state. 2016 probably changed that some because rural America in general turned hard against the Democrats while a lot of urban/suburban Republican voters did not like Trump.
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