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In regards to one of the towns mention, in the town of Amherst, Eggertsville(CDP) is an area of the town next to the University at Buffalo/city of Buffalo, which is close to a rail stop, is in a very good school district(mainly Amherst Central), is about 15% black and the black median household income is $80,564(8.7% poverty rate, both according to this source's 2018 5 year estimate information: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...ePreview=false ).
Amherst in general is a relatively more "liberal" and diverse suburb in parts. Back in the day, former professional athletes and coaches such as O.J. Simpson, Bob McAdoo, Adrian Dantley and Ted Cottrell used to live in the Williamsville area/SD in the town during their time with the Bills or the old Braves NBA team.
In recent years, quite a few black athletes at Buffalo area Catholic high schools actually come from Amherst and many from the Amherst Central SD in particular(some come from the neighboring Sweet Home SD also in Amherst, where about 21% of its students are black).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYsrQE8y0XM (against Williamsville South, which is the portion of that SD that black residents are more concentrated in and is also in the town of Amherst)
Also, there is this private school nearby in the Snyder community in the same SD/town: https://theparkschool.org/
School's athletic director: https://thechallengernews.com/2018/0...rcus-hutchins/ (Known for its Basketball program, his son plays at Rice, with another former player getting drafted by the Bucks in the 2nd round out of Louisville. Another former player is at GA State(Greg Oden's younger brother).
So, that may be a specific example that fits much of the OP's criteria and one that is relatively affordable.
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I do not agree with this. I lived near Montclair when I was younger and it has a number of very affluent expensive neighborhoods in addition to modest ones. Neither Middletown or Windsor have that.
I think West Hartford is more like Montclair. It has everything from modest rentals to mansions. It also has a more upscale feel that Windsor and Middletown lack. They’re more middle class.
Another Connecticut town that’s similar would be Fairfield. It’s not quite as urban feeling but there are neighborhoods that are similar in feel. Even super affluent Greenwich is kind of close. Jay
I do not agree with this. I lived near Montclair when I was younger and it has a number of very affluent expensive neighborhoods in addition to modest ones. Neither Middletown or Windsor have that.
I think West Hartford is more like Montclair. It has everything from modest rentals to mansions. It also has a more upscale feel that Windsor and Middletown lack. They’re more middle class.
Another Connecticut town that’s similar would be Fairfield. It’s not quite as urban feeling but there are neighborhoods that are similar in feel. Even super affluent Greenwich is kind of close. Jay
West Hartford really isn't black enough. Its 72.9% white and 5.4% black thats a little too homogeneous if it is 63k people.
I almost listed West Hartford. Hamden too. but I feel like Hamden is more like Windsor in that regard.
Wile Windsor doesn't look like Montclair and isn't as wealthy it looks very very appealing IMO. Parts of Montclair are more urban and not as attractive as much of Windsor
That's probably the whitest part of Montclair Twp though.
Good catch and that interesting as you can see the difference in the street view. It looks like this is another business district in between where Montclair/Upper Montclair meet(Watchung area): https://goo.gl/maps/rXmY6L2mEdzZHiMn6
With that, I'd say that Cheltenham in the Philadelphia area and Farmington Hills/Farmington in the Detroit area.
In terms of this area, which shares the same school district and used to make up Farmington Township before becoming 2 separate cities, Farmington offers walkability: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4649...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
The black median household income for Farmington Hills is $67,729(2019 5 year estimates, 7.8% black poverty rate in that period, not available for Farmington).
It is one of the area of Metro Detroit I'd live in from my time being there.
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In terms of this area, which shares the same school district and used to make up Farmington Township before becoming 2 separate cities, Farmington offers walkability: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4649...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
The black median household income for Farmington Hills is $67,729(2019 5 year estimates, 7.8% black poverty rate in that period, not available for Farmington).
It is one of the area of Metro Detroit I'd live in from my time being there.
Harrison, which closed in 2019 was the high school with the highest black percentage at the time(about 40%) and was known for its good Football program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFDOmQ4vs18
I almost listed West Hartford. Hamden too. but I feel like Hamden is more like Windsor in that regard.
Wile Windsor doesn't look like Montclair and isn't as wealthy it looks very very appealing IMO. Parts of Montclair are more urban and not as attractive as much of Windsor
Middletown is a weaker proxy and I can definitely admit that. It just has that commercial strip.
Norwalk is probably the best approximation in CT which is good because its large.
It really depends on what you are comparing, race or affluence or character.
Windsor is only comparable to Montclair if you are talking racial makeup. It lacks the affluence and mature suburban character of Montclair which is what I am comparing. Even Norwalk does not have the black population to be comparable to Montclair. It is less than 13% Black while Montclair is 31.3%. Hamden does not compare either with 19.4% Black.
I look at character which includes age of housing stock and density. Much of West Hartford is pre World War II Housing. Montclair too. There is a sizable walkable downtown in both Montclair and West Hartford. Windsor Center is small and the town is mostly post WWII housing. Hamden has no real walkable center. It’s very post WWII suburban with large shopping plazas surrounded by sea of asphalt parking lots.
Though it has some of the affluence Norwalk is more urban. It was and is a small city. It had factories which Montclair did not really have.
All this said I stick by my original post that towns like West Hartford, Fairfield and Greenwich are more like Montclair for character and affluence. Jay
The Montclair of California is probably Culver City. It's only 10% black, but that's pretty high for LA and it has a wealthy black neighborhood bordering Ladera in Los Angeles. I don't consider the other wealthy areas to be very integrated though. Most of the black people in Culver City live in the eastern parts bordering south LA.
We actually do have a Montclair in the area, but I don't know how wealthy it is. It neighbors Claremont (Montclair/Claremont, get it?) which is wealthier and a college town, but I don't know much about it.
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