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Have you travelled outside the Sunbelt? anulinale is pointing out the dif between Sunbelt & non-sunbelt cities. Most of the areas within the limits of places like Houston is post-WWII development; most in non-Sunbelt cities have a prepondrance of pre-WWII development. It's pretty hard to plop down a mall on developed land, thus non-Sunbelt malls are mostly located in the burbs.
Have you travelled outside the Sunbelt? anulinale is pointing out the dif between Sunbelt & non-sunbelt cities. Most of the areas within the limits of places like Houston is post-WWII development; most in non-Sunbelt cities have a prepondrance of pre-WWII development. It's pretty hard to plop down a mall on developed land, thus non-Sunbelt malls are mostly located in the burbs.
Have you ever been to Houston?? There are no malls within the inner loop. There are shopping districts, but no malls.
Yes I do realize, and yet they're superior to Dallas in both shopping and dining. Which is why Dallas as #1 is preposterous.
I am originally from the 'high and mighty' Northeast and visited Dallas several times in the last few month and, for the life of me I cannot figure out why folks bash Texas cities so much??? Dallas, contrary to what a few so-called urbanites profess found mainly on these boards, has good urbanity and excellent shopping and a lot going for it. It's true, shopping in Dallas is very, very good.
Have you ever been to Houston?? There are no malls within the inner loop. There are shopping districts, but no malls.
But the outer loop is also Houston city limits and that's what makes up most of the city of Houston. it just proves the fact that the outer loop is nothing but suburban territory. Both of you are actually stating a fact.
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I am originally from the 'high and mighty' Northeast and visited Dallas several times in the last few month and, for the life of me I cannot figure out why folks bash Texas cities so much??? Dallas, contrary to what a few so-called urbanites profess found mainly on these boards, has good urbanity and excellent shopping and a lot going for it. It's true, shopping in Dallas is very, very good.
Yes, and about 95% of them have never been here. Some people can't bring themselves to give Texas cities a break on anything simply because they're in Texas, which I'm starting to think is one of the most misunderstood states in the country. It's unfair, but I'm getting over it and learning to choose my battles here on C-D.
Have you travelled outside the Sunbelt? anulinale is pointing out the dif between Sunbelt & non-sunbelt cities. Most of the areas within the limits of places like Houston is post-WWII development; most in non-Sunbelt cities have a prepondrance of pre-WWII development. It's pretty hard to plop down a mall on developed land, thus non-Sunbelt malls are mostly located in the burbs.
Have you ever traveled to the Sunbelt?? We have malls and shopping districts within our city limits.
Milwaukee. It may well be the biggest city in the country without a Nordstrom. They were the last city in Wisconsin to get retailers like Borders, Cost Plus, Costco, Whole Foods, even Petsmart. They all had stores in smaller cities like Madison, Appleton and even Eau Claire before finally opening a Milwaukee location. Not all of these stores are in all these cities, but Milwaukee has always been among the last large cities in the country in landing major retailers, particularly those that could be considered a bit higher end.
I've always heard the reason for this is Milwaukee's very close proximity to Chicago. If you live in the southern suburbs, you can be shopping in metro Chicago within half an hour.
Have you ever traveled to the Sunbelt?? We have malls and shopping districts within our city limits.
That's what he's talking about. Personally, most urban enthusiasts hate malls and I do as well. Leave those to the suburbs. But the best shopping districts are street front stores. That's me though
But the outer loop is also Houston city limits and that's what makes up most of the city of Houston. it just proves the fact that the outer loop is nothing but suburban territory. Both of you are actually stating a fact.
I don't see how that makes Houston any different from other cities. When i was in New York City I went to a mall in Manhattan. It was across the street from Central Park. So apparently sun-belt cities are not the only ones with malls within the city limits and it doesn't prove that Houston is suburban territory outside the loop. Uptown Houston is outside the loop and it is very urban. Greenspoint, Sharpstown, and Westchase are outside the loop and they are very urban. When I think of the suburbs i think of The Woodlands, Sugarland, Katy, and Pearland. They are definitely not in the city limits but those places are where the malls are at (at least the thriving ones). The Galleria mall in Uptown reminded me alot of the mall I went to in Manhattan.
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