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Old 05-12-2009, 02:23 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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That is so strange to me that a city in a different state would be part of the metropolitan area of another! Obviously shows how big NY city is then.

Thanks for the map
What about a city in another state, that is named after an adjoining state, with no metro area to speak of to form the tie? (Michigan City, Indiana comes to mind, about 6 miles into Indiana from the Michigan state line.)
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:33 PM
 
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What about a city in another state, that is named after an adjoining state, with no metro area to speak of to form the tie? (Michigan City, Indiana comes to mind, about 6 miles into Indiana from the Michigan state line.)


Hmmm maybe not so strange lol
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:22 PM
 
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That is so strange to me that a city in a different state would be part of the metropolitan area of another! Obviously shows how big NY city is then.

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Shows a combination of how big NYC is and how small in area some of the Northeastern states are.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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We wouldnt mind the0degreeC winters (as long as 3 months not 5). Love a summer that is 27- 35 C and autumn/spring inbetween.

Big City to us is Sydney which has 5 million, but that is the whole of the state of NSW. So I would be guessing that a lot of your smaller cities would indeed be HUGE for us

Yes, mega cities could be WAY to big.
By winters of 0C, do you mean 0C for the average high, or low, or the overall average temperature that falls between the high and low? If you want average lows of 0C, you'll have to go farther south than NJ, NY, VA, Washington, D.C. Along the coast in the east, you'd probably have to get as far south as midway down the North Carolina coast to find average low temperatures no colder than 0C. If you mean an overall average winter temp. of 0C, places like D.C., southern NJ, Virginia in most areas (except in the mountains) would have weather that would probably work well for you, as long as you can tolerate some summertime humidity.

Regarding population, I don't know a lot about the local political structure in Australia, but it's my understanding that Sydney (I don't know about other Australian cities) covers a much larger area than American cities do, and includes in the city limits most of the territory that would be independently governed suburbs in the U.S. You probably would get a better comparison between Sydney and American cities by considering the American cities' metropolitan area populations.

Even comparing U.S. metro areas to Sydney could lead to a problematic comparison. The areas you have asked about, along the coast of the northeastern U.S., and extending down the coast to the uppermost parts of the South, are located in the most densely populated region of the country, so many of these areas may feel larger than the populations of the local metropolitan areas, due to connections with heavily populated areas not officially included in a city's metro area, but still nearby and very closely connected, with a lot of cross-traffic.

An example would be the D.C. metro area. The area classified by the U.S. Census Bureau as the D.C. "metropolitan statistical area" has a population of about five and a half million, somewhat larger than Sydney but roughly similar. However, for a few years now the Census Bureau has also measured something called a "consolidated statistical area" for more densely populated areas with cities in close proximity. This is basically a broadly local area where several local metro areas that are very close to each other have a lot of commuting between them, with close economic connections, but are still a little too far apart, and a little too loosely connected to be considered all one very local metro area. Though the D.C. MSA population is just a bit larger than Sydney's, D.C. is also part of a CSA with a population of over eight million. And then on top of that is the effect of heavy travel all up and down the northeastern coastal region, from a bit north of Boston to a bit south of D.C., which leads to heavy traffic on highways throughout the region. To give you some idea of the difference in population between the two countries, the last I checked, the population of the CSA with New York City at its core was about 21 million, in other words, nearly as large as the entire population of Australia.
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:34 AM
 
Location: MN
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Albuquerque should be considered.
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:19 AM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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Ok... don't laugh....

Charlotte, North Carolina.

Now, most people don't put "culture" and "Charlotte" into the same sentence, but here are some things to consider: Charlotte is a growing city even with the economy the way it is. 2 million in the metro area - not a "mega" city but not small town, either. While it doesn't have the cultural aspects of NYC or Chicago, it does have some cultural amenities and museums. They have an expanding light rail public transit system so are forward thinking in that regard. They have four distinct seasons - snow in the Winter, but plenty of warmer months, too.

The geographic location is good if you don't mind a little driving. It's a 4 hour drive to Wilmington (on the beach). It's a 4 hour drive inland to Atlanta with all the stuff it has to offer. It's a 2 hour drive to the smaller city of Asheville with it's lively arts community atmosphere and mountain setting. In other words, you're only 4 hours or less away from LOTS of very different types of environments.

Just something to consider that hasn't been brought up yet.
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:28 AM
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We wouldnt mind the0degreeC winters (as long as 3 months not 5). Love a summer that is 27- 35 C and autumn/spring inbetween.
Big City to us is Sydney which has 5 million, but that is the whole of the state of NSW. So I would be guessing that a lot of your smaller cities would indeed be HUGE for us

Yes, mega cities could be WAY to big.
The Syndey area (entire state you say?) has around 4.3 million people according to the 2006 Australian census.

US cities with similar or higher populations compared to Sydney (going by combined statistical areas):

New York: 21,961,994
Los Angeles: 17,755,322
Chicago: 9,745,165
Washington-Baltimore: 8,241,912
Boston: 7,476,689
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland: 7,264,887
Dallas-Fort Worth: 6,498,410
Philadelphia: 6,385,461
Houston: 5,729,027
Atlanta: 5,626,400
Detroit: 5,405,918
Phoenix: 4,281,899
Seattle: 4,038,741
Minneapolis: 3,538,781


In general that should give you an idea of what places will probably seem like big cities to you, bigger, or close to Sydney in population. There are also still around 30 more cities in the 1 million to 3 million population range.
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