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Old 12-29-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell View Post
If you want FedX to deliver a letter to my house it's going to cost you six bucks.
And?

 
Old 12-29-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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Every shipping company has their issues. UPS lost my package several times. Thank goodness Amazon replaced them free of charge.

I have my own ETSY store. I ship only USPS Prioirty mail with free tracking. I ship 10+ packages daily. Not once have I had any issues with customer complaining about lost or damage packages.

Your experience isn't mine and mine isn't yours. Thank goodness we have OPTIONS and get to choose who we want to do business with.

Funny how people are crying about USPS. You don't like them? Don't use them. Simple as that. It's called options. It's something GOOD to have.
Actually, Online Shopping has become a boon for the USPS. Most overseas suppliers and many smaller ones use the USPS exclusively. They now work on Sat, Sun and even after normal PO hours.

I don't see them going anywhere.
 
Old 12-29-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by goodie2shoes View Post
Every shipping company has their issues. UPS lost my package several times. Thank goodness Amazon replaced them free of charge.

I have my own ETSY store. I ship only USPS Prioirty mail with free tracking. I ship 10+ packages daily. Not once have I had any issues with customer complaining about lost or damage packages.

Your experience isn't mine and mine isn't yours. Thank goodness we have OPTIONS and get to choose who we want to do business with.

Funny how people are crying about USPS. You don't like them? Don't use them. Simple as that. It's called options. It's something GOOD to have.
Options are great and the free market allows for them. We have FedEx, UPS, and many others.

The problem is that USPS is supported by the government... which affects all taxpayers. It's not as simple as saying not to use it. The USPS needs to be held liable for their debt and missed payments just like any other company.

One option would be to keep USPS and make it completely private. The good thing here is that prices will normalize to similar to what UPS and FedEx uses. That way you'll still have the option of using USPS that you want.
 
Old 12-29-2016, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by goodie2shoes View Post
Every shipping company has their issues. UPS lost my package several times. Thank goodness Amazon replaced them free of charge.
I have my own ETSY store. I ship only USPS Prioirty mail with free tracking. I ship 10+ packages daily. Not once have I had any issues with customer complaining about lost or damage packages.
Your experience isn't mine and mine isn't yours. Thank goodness we have OPTIONS and get to choose who we want to do business with.
Funny how people are crying about USPS. You don't like them? Don't use them. Simple as that. It's called options. It's something GOOD to have.
I agree, I sell on ebay and would have been out of business a long time ago if it weren't for the fact that I can send a first class package weighing 13 ounces or less for under $3.50 - with tracking! UPS & FedEx would be at least twice that much, probably three times as much.
 
Old 12-29-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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The suggestions have already been made, they are the same ones that have been implemented in a number of European countries, allow the postal service to conduct money transfers, sell pre-paid debit cards and possibly even tie those debit cards to low/no fee checking accounts. Provide kiosks for those banking customers to make electronic bill payments, deposits, withdrawals and money transfers. Banks make a ton on no fee checking accounts and debit card fees, why not give USPS part of the action?
For just about everything else I find wrong in your arguments, this is probably the one point we agree. I would fully support the USPS being able to offer additional ancillary products - not only would it provide revenue streams to help the USPS be more independently solvent it would be a celebration of free market ideals which, in spite of other posters claiming is terribly dangerous, is not. Socialism and its kissing cousin communism have brought more misery to the world than we have time to discuss here. When markets are truly freed (not the crony capitalism we see that is confused with free markets, perfect example being healthcare), societies become more prosperous.

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You mistake something done poorly (and some of what is done to the USPS is done poorly by the Congress) with doing something that is the right thing to do. The Republican Party has been at war with unions for decades now. The result? Fewer Americans, particularly in the private sector, have pensions. Their lifelong incomes have dropped. They are more dependent on Social Security than before. Every American who works some standard amount of time ought to have a floating pension account. On the other hand, the Republicans in Congress hold on to their generous pensions. Those same Republican senators and members of the House who want to eliminate Social Security or raise the retirement age to as much as 70 years or more, don't touch their own pensions...which they are eligible for at -- in some cases --at age 50! If only regular Americans deserved as much as the people they elect to represent them.

Congressional Pensions Update - FactCheck.org
It's not a meaningful discussion to talk about the decline of pensions without asking the question of what other avenues of retirement income are available. Americans have options such as 401(k) accounts, IRA's and others. Additionally, in the case of 401k and IRA's, there is ability to have more true ownership of the funds, which can be willed to children or charity. If only the money you are forced to pay into Social Security allowed you to have ownership of your funds, it might be slightly less a Ponzi scheme.

On the Republican Party and its adherence to their pensions. If you want to criticize an action, so be it. However, criticize all who are engaging in the action you don't like - don't cherrypick only the people you want to villainize - that comes off pretty disingenuous and hypocritical. Democrats in Congress are clamoring for their pensions just as much, and I don't see Democrats complaining about how overcompensated they are by the American Taxpayer. In fact, interestingly enough your link mentions Nancy Pelosi, "Pelosi, who is already one of the wealthiest members of Congress, would be entitled to a generous pension whenever her congressional service ends."

Let one of the most notable Democratic leaders in Congress be the first to come running to the aid of the middle class she claims to care about, and call for a revision of her own pension...or you could call on Pelosi to do it too...
 
Old 12-29-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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The United States Postal Service remains relevant. First, we do not need many entities delivering first class mail. Postage fees would be higher because of additional people delivering mail, additional vehicles needed, and the cost of maintaining those vehicles. The idea is similar to multiple utility companies using multiple power lines serving the same places. Second, there is good competition in parcel delivery against United Parcel Service and Federal Express.
It's so relevant that I, who live in a very large dense urban area, find that most of my stuff ordered online comes FedEx and UPS via the USPS. Yep, my mailman delivers my smaller Fed Ex parcels, and small UPS parcels. If two major delivery companies find the USPS relevant, it's relevant.

 
Old 12-29-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by tigre79
Those of us in Alaska and Hawaii, US territories, and the US military make tremendous use of USPS.
Yes indeed you do........ I think Alaska probably gets MORE usps activity than Hawaii does.......


No USPS service is GOOD..... Then you dont have to go out to get/send your mail......
 
Old 12-29-2016, 11:13 PM
 
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I like USPS. Why have big polluting trucks drive crap around when you have something small that can be delivered by people walking around, and/or driving little trucks. That's like seeing wisdom in cutting butter only using a chainsaw.

More competition is better too. If we didn't have USPS, you can bet your sweet lost dollar that UPS, FedEx, and other guys will charge more.

It's been awhile since someone's gone "postal". I'm sending someone over to the OP's house now...
 
Old 12-29-2016, 11:26 PM
 
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I notice they seem to be getting later and later here!!

They used to come around NOON everyday!! -- Then last year it started getting later round 1 or so........ Then recently its been as late as 15:30!!!

I dunno.....
 
Old 12-29-2016, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I notice they seem to be getting later and later here!!

They used to come around NOON everyday!! -- Then last year it started getting later round 1 or so........ Then recently its been as late as 15:30!!!
Maybe they changed the route and/or delivery approach. I've never heard of USPS carriers being bound to a specific schedule. As long as it's in the box by late afternoon, they've done what they're supposed to do.
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