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Old 09-22-2017, 04:16 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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It think its disgusting and of questionable legality for a pharmacy to play doctor with peoples medication like this. It should be up to the patients doctor if they need it or not.

Glad I quit CVS last year.... they could NEVER get my prescriptions correct.......
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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Glad I quit CVS last year.... they could NEVER get my prescriptions correct.......
My concern is other pharmacies adopting this practice. I hope a lawyer challenges the legality of it.
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:21 PM
 
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Thrillobyte, dear - I don't think we can have a meaningful conversation here
Oh, elnina, sorry. Your "dear" tells me you didn't read my revised post. I actually complimented you. The first post where I said "dear" is gone. Reread it if you wish or end the conversation as you wish.
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Oh, elnina, sorry. Your "dear" tells me you didn't read my revised post. I actually complimented you. The first post where I said "dear" is gone. Reread it if you wish or end the conversation as you wish.
Well, the problem is that my opinion and your opinion are so different there is not much to discuss. Besides this is not a medical forum.

Note: I am glad you took the time to actually read my post. Thank you.

Now, if 5% of population (people in the US) consume 80% of the of the global opioid supply, how the 95% of population deal with their pain? Or at least other developed countries?
I do travel, have friends in other countries, observe and talk to people and while some people have legitimate reasons to be in pain, no one complained that their pain was inefficiently/ineffectively managed by their doctors.
How would you explain that?

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Old 09-22-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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It think its disgusting and of questionable legality for a pharmacy to play doctor with peoples medication like this. It should be up to the patients doctor if they need it or not.
Dr's are not just worried about the FDA. They're also worried about arrogant pharmacists playing cop by calling the DEA saying, "Hello, Mr. DEA agent, this is Mr. Pharmacist. I have a prescription written by a Dr. Norm O'Connor that is for 60 oxycodone. I refused to fill it because it just seems like a lot and the patient looks fine. I just wanted to suggest you check this Dr. out. He might be a pill mill Dr. My pleasure, you're welcome. Goodbye."

I've read about that happening. Dr's are terrified of idiot pharmacists.
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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Well, the problem is that my opinion and your opinion are so different there is not much to discuss. Besides this is not a medical forum.
Okay, no hard feelings.
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:58 PM
 
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I am hearing about this no opiod policy ss well. A friend recently had knee replacememt surgery and they sent her home with tylenol. I had both knees replaced two years ago and cannot imagine recovering from that surgery without vicodin. I was on a pretty high dose for five weeks and honestly did suffer from withdrawal when I stopped taking them to go back to work. Not prescribing for people in real pain is not the answer, however I do think we could have pain management specialists involved in these cases where rhey closely monitor the patient for abuse and work with them to wean you off the drugs when it is time. I was pretty much in my own with large dose prescriptions and zero guidance on using them from my doctors. If I wasnt si aware of the addiction issues and was on top of it all the time I was taking them, I could have easily developed a problem.
Weird. My neighbor IN SO FL just had knee replacement surgery and only used his opioids sparingly.He was off them in ten days.

It's a false narrative to claim people wouldn't know about those drugs. Unless they're totally ignorant about life or from another country or something.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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* Doctors for most part have stopped prescribing opioids under any circumstances.
* about 100 million people in this country live with chronic pain
* OTC NSAID's don't work for them
* in the amounts they need to control pain they'll die from liver/kidney failure first
* many have been pushed off their pain meds abruptly and are going through withdrawals
* this leaves them with 3 choices:
a. live with the sometime unbearable pain
b. commit suicide
c. buy opioids on the street and risk death from OD

They've tried to get other doctors to help them to no avail. Many doctors hang signs on their front door "No pain patients accepted".

What should they do?
I disagree with every bullet point on your list. Just for the record.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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* Doctors for most part have stopped prescribing opioids under any circumstances.
* about 100 million people in this country live with chronic pain
* OTC NSAID's don't work for them
* in the amounts they need to control pain they'll die from liver/kidney failure first
* many have been pushed off their pain meds abruptly and are going through withdrawals
* this leaves them with 3 choices:
a. live with the sometime unbearable pain
b. commit suicide
c. buy opioids on the street and risk death from OD

They've tried to get other doctors to help them to no avail. Many doctors hang signs on their front door "No pain patients accepted".

What should they do?
They will do what they should have done before they started taking opioids, find alternatives to managing their pain. You'd be surprised how people can learn to cope with pain when they realize that they aren't getting any more percocets.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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They will do what they should have done before they started taking opioids, find alternatives to managing their pain. You'd be surprised how people can learn to cope with pain when they realize that they aren't getting any more percocets.
Doesn't make sense. Before they got the percocets they didn't have pain. After they got the pain they asked for percocets. So what were they doing before starting to take opioids? Not suffering from pain, that's what.
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