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And let's not forget "there are no feminists in a house fire"....Bill Burr.
I watched that skit recently, and have to say the man has a point. I just wouldn't go so far as to accept the above as gospel, same way I wouldn't just accept 'there are no atheists in foxholes.' It's a bit of an overreaching generalization and I'm somewhat weary of those. Coz the answer is always 'of course there are, they're just not convenient for the narrative.'
If you consider that among single people between 18-34, there is a tremendous surplus of single men relative to single women, then yes, every woman dying skews the dating pool even worse than it already is.
that doesn't mean there is a surplus of men... it means there are men not looking outside that age bracket and becoming single because of their choices
that doesn't mean there is a surplus of men... it means there are men not looking outside that age bracket and becoming single because of their choices
I hope you are not suggesting adult men start looking for girls at the bottom range of that bracket?
If you consider that among single people between 18-34, there is a tremendous surplus of single men relative to single women, then yes, every woman dying skews the dating pool even worse than it already is.
I noticed that when I was studying US demographics. I don't believe it ever used to be that way. Many men died in wars and as children. Infant mortality is higher in boys than girls in most parts of the world, but with medical advances it evens out.
Here's the US demographics from wiki. Not enough younger woman:
There are plenty of 60 + women. But how many 20 yo guys want to date a 60 yo woman?
Just in case it wasn't obvious, my comment was a playful rib. If it helps, I consider the whole bracket thing a non-issue and refuse to take complaints of it seriously.
Not a matter of gender. Whether someone who dies was worth something or not depends what/if they contributed good to the world in life, if they did not then no biggie, but if they did then it's a loss.
Not a matter of gender. Whether someone who dies was worth something or not depends what/if they contributed good to the world in life, if they did not then no biggie, but if they did then it's a loss.
The problem is... in the case of say a burning building or sinking ship there isn't always time to assess everyone's bio and reasonably measure their contribution to the world, not forgetting potential value. Besides who gets to decide this? So some bias/prejudice will most certainly feature in this decision making.
If you are basing things on sex alone, no, it's not more tragic of a woman dies than a man. It's equally tragic. But rarely do we hear about such things in a vacuum of other information. We hear things like, "grandmother dies in horrible house fire" or "young father killed before birth of baby" and it tugs at our hearts. I would say it's always tragic when a young person dies, especially a very young person. I think a lot of times we remember what tugs at our heart strings the most. So if you, personally, think it's more horrible for a woman, man, elderly person, child, baby, etc dies... you will remember those stories.
As far as women and children first and all that goes. It all boils down to what I think is an innate species obligation to help the weak. The average woman is physically weaker than the average man. But that's just the "average" man and woman. On a person by person basis, you could very well have a woman in a group being the strongest. She should workout, train, and lift weights (which women really didn't do years ago). She could simply be the young and healthy in a group of unhealthy people. She could be a trained rescuer too (which again, women weren't allowed to do until recent history). But in most cases, it will most likely be a young man who is the strongest.
The strongest in a group should help the weak. If that means a man in a group is the strongest in the situation, he should help the others and put them first. If that person is a woman, she should help and put them first.
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One thought I recently had: Admittedly in the past, women were infantilized as children, so, if anything, wouldn't lumping how many grown women died in some tragedy with little kids just make them look like children? Wanting to point out just how x number of grown women died along with y number kids died seems, if anything, infitializing to me.
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