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Good example of why required military for all might be a good idea.
I just turned 24. Though I did come from a one-parent household, I have no issues: I'm a college grad (first in my family), I work in finance, have my own apartment in my favorite city, and am in a relationship with a wonderful girlfriend. Just because I don't want to follow outdated etiquette rules, does NOT mean that I have any issues. I'm mostly nice and pleasant, as most people in my life would attest; however, I'm all about doing my own thing.
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Originally Posted by in_newengland
You'll be sorry though when you go on a job interview dressed like a slob and you can't get hired. Also, people do judge you by your behavior--etiquette is just a fancy word for being polite and considerate of others.
My sister helped a guy who couldn't get a job. One day she saw how he dressed for the interviews--in camouflage! So she took him out and they bought a clean shirt and khaki pants. He got two job offers once he started dressing better. One reason is that to show up for an interview dressed like a slob is insulting to the person who is interviewing you. They invited you for an interview, you are their guest. So at least dress as if you respect the person. Dress and act the way normal people dress and act. It's not "anything goes."
I'm in business, so I know better than to go dress like a slob at an interview. Though I don't care about what most people think of me, people in my life would say that I am very polite and considerate. I just do my own thing, run by my own code, and evaluate which rules of etiquette I want to follow.
It's amazing that anyone thinks morals can't be taught.
And it's duly noted that you object to the teaching of the morality of accepting transgender people for who they are.
That's not what I said. I questioned the teaching of transgenderism IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
You would prefer people who know about transgenderism instead of people who can behave in a civil, respectful manner? Think being able to describe transgenderism is a more valuable, lifelong skill to have than basic manners?
Because the list could become very long perhaps just keeping it simple? Please, thank you, etc.
Just as warriors of old developed the custom of offering a hand to shake to indicate, "I have no weapon in my hand, therefore I mean well," manners are to indicate a respect for and goodwill toward our companions on the road of life.
Use of the commonplace old words should help people develop an attitude of respect for others. At this time in our increasingly diverse society it seems only common sense to want to create that social atmosphere.
Because the list could become very long perhaps just keeping it simple? Please, thank you, etc.
Just as warriors of old developed the custom of offering a hand to shake to indicate, "I have no weapon in my hand, therefore I mean well," manners are to indicate a respect for and goodwill toward our companions on the road of life.
Use of the commonplace old words should help people develop an attitude of respect for others. At this time in our increasingly diverse society it seems only common sense to want to create that social atmosphere.
The list would be really simple.
Don't take what's not yours.
Don't interrupt when others are speaking
Keep your hands to yourself (this covers so much)
Be civil to each other (don't have to like each other though)
Say please, thanks, you're welcome
Chew with your mouth closed and don't talk with food in your mouth
Cover your mouth/nose when you sneeze
Look someone in the eye when shaking hands
Stand when meeting someone
Pretty basic stuff. Imagine if EVERYONE did the above.
I just turned 24. Though I did come from a one-parent household, I have no issues: I'm a college grad (first in my family), I work in finance, have my own apartment in my favorite city, and am in a relationship with a wonderful girlfriend. Just because I don't want to follow outdated etiquette rules, does NOT mean that I have any issues. I'm mostly nice and pleasant, as most people in my life would attest; however, I'm all about doing my own thing.
I'm in business, so I know better than to go dress like a slob at an interview. Though I don't care about what most people think of me, people in my life would say that I am very polite and considerate. I just do my own thing, run by my own code, and evaluate which rules of etiquette I want to follow.[/quote]
Well that's good to hear. Congrats on college. Because you say you are nice & pleasant makes me think your 1st post was more about rebellion. I get it, most rebel at your age, I did.
I did look up what I could find about gen z. So like every other new generation wanting to do your own thing to be unique. Except everyone else is doing it too, so.. not so unique.
I have a 22 yr. old son who is a know-it-all. If you don't believe it, you can ask him.
I doubt you would even consider treating your grandparents with disrespect. And hopefully stand up for them if someone else did.
Only two ways to have anything close to what things used to be 60 years ago or so. Build a time machine and go back in time. 2. Move to a nice small town away from any major cities where people are friendly, polite, helpful etc. We found one. We love it here.
My mom was big on putting your napkin in your lap. No elbows on the table. No chewing with your mouth open. No reaching across the table. No slurping to the bottom of your glass with a straw.
The standard short & sweet pre-dinner prayer with kids; 'God is great, God is good & we thank him for our food. Amen'.
God forbid if the phone rang during dinner time. Maybe no one minds their manners because nobody eats together anymore? Kids take off to their rooms & their dad goes downstairs to sit in front of the TV. I'm usually eating standing up.
This trend is just a reflection of a much bigger deterioration in communication, ethics, and civility across America. In other words, the problems/changes are much broader than etiquette and manners, and more prevalent than just something missing from schools. When we have "leaders" yelling and screwing people over - for example - we see the junk from the very top, and that pollution just runs downstream.
Americans are poor at seeing the big picture, full causes and effects. We tend to only see a tiny portion of the "elephant", and also only attack the issue in one narrow area. Until that changes, we'll have difficulty solving anything. But no one ever wants to do the real, needed work, or admit how much we need to improve.
Only two ways to have anything close to what things used to be 60 years ago or so. Build a time machine and go back in time. 2. Move to a nice small town away from any major cities where people are friendly, polite, helpful etc. We found one. We love it here.
Thanks so much for posting this, augiedogie. We are moving to Door County, WI next year and can hardly wait!
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