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Old 06-08-2009, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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California contemplates ultimate reform - no welfare

OUCH....this will hurt millions of very poor, destitute people...

Will the government just let people starve? Turn to crime? Riot in the streets?
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Islip Township
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Sounds like a good Idea. You want a free ride. Not happining. How about work fair. There has to be something [ save for a few who really can not work] they can do to earn there keep.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I'm not so sure that this would be an effective way to make up the $24.3 billion. They may well incur $24.3 billion in additional costs for police, national guard, fire, prison, looting cleanup, etc. I think we all know what would happen...
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm not so sure that this would be an effective way to make up the $24.3 billion. They may well incur $24.3 billion in additional costs for police, national guard, fire, prison, looting cleanup, etc. I think we all know what would happen...
Bus tickets out of town are cheaper.

I'm not entirely joking because my own mother remembers seeing ad's on busses in Michigan back in the 40's telling people that California was where it was at and encouraging people to relocate for better 'opportunities'.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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California contemplates ultimate reform - no welfare

OUCH....this will hurt millions of very poor, destitute people...

Will the government just let people starve? Turn to crime? Riot in the streets?
I say this in jest, half-heartedly: Give people want they want. Then they can have the third world country that they so desire. Then they can really see what violence and hunger really is. Then they can watch people eat dirt because they are starving.


Ok, no not really.
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Doomsday Journalism, with no basis at all, that I can find in the story.

Would somebody please go back and read the story and tell me exactly who has proposed that CalWorks be completely eliminated?
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:49 PM
 
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About $467 million in cuts will occur if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's proposal to scrap the state's welfare-to-work program goes through, he said.
The governor's proposal to eliminate CalWORKS - the state's largest cash aid to children and families - would save the state $1.4 billion for 2009-10, and more than $2.4 billion annually thereafter, according to the Department of Finance.
On Oct. 1, when the program would be abolished, more than 1.4 million recipients statewide would lose temporary assistance for food, shelter, clothing and welfare-to-work support services such as child care. Countywide, more than 102,000 people would be affected, Wert said.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_12524517
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What's this I hear about California's K-14 education? Are they actually paying for 2 years of college or does this mean something else?
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:02 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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What's this I hear about California's K-14 education? Are they actually paying for 2 years of college or does this mean something else?
Naw, that's just the product of our modern education system... it just means they can't count anymore. (only ten fingers)
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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What's this I hear about California's K-14 education? Are they actually paying for 2 years of college or does this mean something else?
Google /proposition 98 college/ and see how much of it you can understand. It looks like there is an inclusion in the state education budget to pay part of all of fees for community colleges. Currently, community colleges are getting almost 10% of the state budget for K-12.
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