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The majority of the population is not educated, afraid of science, and believes in a form of creationism (last poll I knew of). One of the reasons the US is a republic, as I understand it, is to avoid mob rules.
Exactly. Put most of the current social issues to a vote tomorrow and most of those issues would be gone rather quickly.
Some of the views here are downright creepy. And we all wonder why some folks feel the need to keep and maintain firearms.
Here is the answer. If a person has a mental IQ very low so they cant funtion or care for any offspring. THEY SHOULD NOT be allowed to breed. If they do anyway they should be jailed and forsed to be sterilized. Its common for certified retarded females to be sterilized now. Sad yes but for the childrens sake it has to be..
Brilliant. My daughter is developmentally disabled (or retarded, if you prefer). If someday she gets pregnant, whether raped, coerced by someone who knows better or simply fooling around with a retarded boy, put her in jail. Perform surgery on her! Abort the baby, perhaps? For everybody's good, of course.
I can't decide whether this sounds more like something out of 1984 or Brave New World.
Exactly. Put most of the current social issues to a vote tomorrow and most of those issues would be gone rather quickly.
Some of the views here are downright creepy. And we all wonder why some folks feel the need to keep and maintain firearms.
Agreed
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Brilliant. My daughter is developmentally disabled (or retarded, if you prefer). If someday she gets pregnant, whether raped, coerced by someone who knows better or simply fooling around with a retarded boy, put her in jail. Perform surgery on her! Abort the baby, perhaps? For everybody's good, of course.
I can't decide whether this sounds more like something out of 1984 or Brave New World.
I'm sorry that you, as a mother of a developmentally disabled kid, has to read all this crap.
I'm sorry that you, as a mother of a developmentally disabled kid, has to read all this crap.
Thanks, Braunwyn. Reading threads like this here and in the Parenting forum help me keep a thick skin, and it's good to know other people's perspectives. I already know that some people think disabled people are little better than animals, so I'm not terribly surprised to read opinions that they should be treated like them. Remember to spay or neuter your retarded children, folks!
Perhaps the U.S. will become such a place someday, but if it does happen, I think it will be at least a few lifetimes from now. There's enough argument now about whether parents have the right to deny their diabetic children insulin ... we're a long way from seizing and sterilizing people against their will.
The majority of the population is not educated, afraid of science, and believes in a form of creationism (last poll I knew of). One of the reasons the US is a republic, as I understand it, is to avoid mob rules.
A. "In 2003, over four-fifths (85 percent) of all adults 25 years or older reported they had completed at least high school; over one in four adults (27 percent) had attained at least a bachelor's degree; " Education - American FactFinder
I was going to say 30% have a 4 year degree. Close enough with 27%. 10-15% have grad degrees; 2-3% professional degrees and around 1-1.5% have pH d's (in or out of the sciences I'm not sure).
B. This poll or one similar will do. This stuff was all over the news a few years ago.
"Most Americans Do Not Believe Human Beings Evolved"
Yes, everyone should be allowed to have children because we cannot play God and force people to be sterilized or take birth control. At least not in the U.S.
That being said, we shouldn't reward people for breeding families they cannot support. Here in Vermont it seems like every other person is on some type of public assistance between free food, subsidized housing and free or subsidized health care. Most of these benefits go to families with children.
It's not unusual for a 25 year old woman to have three kids with three different men. In addition to the welfare handouts, these women are generally incompetent mothers and their kids require special aids, services at school, which just ads to the tax bill.
I don't think it would be going to far to insist that women receiving benefits for children be asked to take birth control and told that they will not be rewarded financially for continuing to breed. But, I doubt this will ever happen.
Yes, everyone should be allowed to have children because we cannot play God and force people to be sterilized or take birth control. At least not in the U.S.
That being said, we shouldn't reward people for breeding families they cannot support. Here in Vermont it seems like every other person is on some type of public assistance between free food, subsidized housing and free or subsidized health care. Most of these benefits go to families with children.
It's not unusual for a 25 year old woman to have three kids with three different men. In addition to the welfare handouts, these women are generally incompetent mothers and their kids require special aids, services at school, which just ads to the tax bill.
I don't think it would be going to far to insist that women receiving benefits for children be asked to take birth control and told that they will not be rewarded financially for continuing to breed. But, I doubt this will ever happen.
Yeah, but you can't just force someone to take birth control. Even if you require it, how do you make sure they are taking it right. Accidents happen on the pill as well.
Maybe an IUD should be implanted if they want food stamps, health care, or welfare. There would still be a lot of people pissed about that to. I don't even know if thats constitutional eitherway.
Yes, everyone should be allowed to have children because we cannot play God and force people to be sterilized or take birth control. At least not in the U.S.
I agree.
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Originally Posted by LisaMc46
That being said, we shouldn't reward people for breeding families they cannot support. ... I don't think it would be going to far to insist that women receiving benefits for children be asked to take birth control and told that they will not be rewarded financially for continuing to breed. But, I doubt this will ever happen.
I also doubt this, because of your original statement. We cannot force people to be sterilized or take birth control. And the problem I see with simply telling women that we won't pay for more than X number of children is that kids need food and shelter. What are we going to do, deny a baby food because we're upset with his mother? Or take the baby away? We already have too many children in foster care, and that costs money too.
I agree that the welfare system needs to be revamped, but I honestly don't know what the solution is. Refusing to feed babies, however, is not it.
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