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Old 03-02-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: South Carolina - The Palmetto State
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Didn't say it was easy. No job is easy. But as for qualifications and training, the learning curve to do a garbageman's work is not very steep.
This is self-evident in the fact that you would never encourage your kids to become garbagemen/women.

Before you call me an elitist, why don't you find where in my post I said it was "easy."
Hmmmm.... " but almost anyone can do that job. It's not like being a garbageman/woman takes years of education, or a really in-shape body to perform"

True, the word "easy" is not used - but I can read implications, thanks.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:26 PM
 
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I say comedians are overlooked.If we couldn't laugh,....we would all be screwed.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Working the Soylent Green Machine at the FEMA Camp
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:54 PM
 
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Hmmmm.... " but almost anyone can do that job. It's not like being a garbageman/woman takes years of education, or a really in-shape body to perform"

True, the word "easy" is not used - but I can read implications, thanks.
"Almost anyone can do it" means anyone with 2 hands, 2 legs, and just enough endurance to work through the day. Once again, that does not imply that it's easy. But a 15 year old boy or girl can do the job.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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You ever lift those cans?

a 15-year old can't do it.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Finally escaped The People's Republic of California
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Meaningful to me....Mine, Oil refinery Mechanic
Meaningful to society....Most Public Service workers
Meaningful to my enjoyment.....The person on the other end of the line at Bass Pro shops
Meaningful to the world....President, Dictator.Chancellor, Prime Minister. etc etc
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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If any "job" were removed, the world as we know it would be significantly different, maybe worse maybe better. If a job was important, and nobody was doing it, someone soon would be.

One of my quick response thoughts would be a bus driver in a third world country. Very few people have their own car, and without someone to drive public mass transport, the burden of walking for all errands would be a huge load on the time and effort of billions of people, both in large urban areas and in remote rural areas. In fact, in third world countries, driving a rattly rickety rural bus with bald tires and no brakes on mountain dirt roads is a very prestigious position, the position of driver is highly sought after, and those who attain it tend to have an elitist air. They are the equivalent of airline pilots in America.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:52 AM
 
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Just adding an indirectly related fact, but, it seems that Marshall Brain in his "Robotic Nation" decree believes that airline pilots will be the first get replaced by semi-intelligent software in the near future. We have the technology today (had it for years actually) to fly completely autopilot from point A to point B and airlines are trying to figure out how to get rid of the expensive salaries of pilots of whom they could alreadya automate.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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We have the technology today (had it for years actually) to fly completely autopilot from point A to point B and airlines are trying to figure out how to get rid of the expensive salaries of pilots of whom they could alreadya automate.
Another plus for my third-world bus drivers. Imagine trying to replace them with a robot?

If robots can replace airline pilots, then I guess the people who program the robotics and data systems would replace pilots on the heirarchy of importance.

Go to any weather site and look at the lists of locations with their current data. See how many of them say "N/A" or "Missing". That's what happens when you have robots assembling data. Weather reporting stations could be located in WalMart stores, and have the Greeter read the thermometer every hour, which would be a great deal more reliable than relying on robotic data as they are doing now.

Imagine being a passenger on an airliner, when the windspeed is "Missing".

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Old 03-03-2010, 08:14 AM
 
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^ Then that would be:
1) technology is not yet precise enough
2) the software was not written correctly

In the case of #1 the word "yet" pretty much speaks for itself.
In the case of #2 its an error of the human, not the machine
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