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Old 05-07-2010, 08:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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As we watch the news stories unfolding every day, how many of us really understand the causes behind the conflicts. It appears the wealthy have declared all out war on the people of the world in attempt to steal all assets, and enslave workers. News media spin conflicts to make it appear as if the divides are among countries, races, political parties, sexual orientation, or any other group with the exception of where the real division exists, between the wealthy and the ordinary people. Take the Greek debt problem, media tries to make it seem as if the people of Germany are bailing out the people of Greece. It reality it is the people of Germany and the people of Greece bailing out the Bankers in Germany and France. In this whole worldwide economic disaster, the one common string is that all the people, and their governments are in debt to World Wide Banking interests. It was banking interests that created this system of debt, and they did it with the intention of indebting the whole world. They have succeeded. They now control governments, media, energy, food, and every other aspect of life. They are now in the process of consolidating their power thru economic warfare as we have just seen in the banking and finance industry with the take over of companies like Lehman, Washington Mutual, and many others. In the next few years you will see the majority of small banks and financial institutions forced into bankruptcy and taken over by the developing trusts. As we watch the people in countries like Iceland and Greece attempt to stand up for their own interests, worldwide banking interests are decimating their standards of living and enacting wages and taxes which will ensure their slavery in the future. This is not new; it is what they have been doing thru the IMF and World Bank to third world countries for decades. It is a future that awaits us all, unless we stand up for ourselves and recognize our enemy is not our fellow workers, but the wealthy who are working endlessly to expand their power and control.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Say-Town! Texas
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Its all about the money, don't take it personally.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:35 AM
 
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I don't think it's all out "war" , and I don't think it's intentional. The wealthy and powerful continue to grow their wealth and power and if it just so happens that is squashes the middle class...well so be it. To them it's the equivelent of driving a large suv over an ant... they are oblivious to it. That's just my opinion.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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It doesn't need to be "war". It's about as one-sided as the US vs. Grenada. Besides being the natural flow of politico-economic events.

Iron law of oligarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the part they're not telling you. 9/11 was a small victory in the war against the bankers. Why do you think they keep attacking the World Trade Center? Why do you think Iran wants nuclear weapons? Iran and Venezuela are the last countries still standing in the war against the centralization of global wealth. The terrorists don't hate America because it's a free country, they hate America because it is NOT a free country, and has sold out to the bankers, which now own it.

Why did the banking/media complex try so hard to keep you from reading the manifesto from the Unabomber? Google it and spend a minute reading a line or two at random. Like "Even if changes large enough to make a
lasting difference were initiated, they would be retracted when their
disruptive effects became apparent."
(Which I just chose at random.) The Unabomber said what we all would think, if free to do so.

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Old 05-07-2010, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default The OP is correct.

This is the most important thread on the whole of City-Data. I'll bet the OP reads www.economicpopulist.org, as his post could be a summary of that site's credo. Three years ago I wouldn't have believed this. By the way, there is something we can do as individuals. We can move our banking business from the mega-banks such as Chase, B of A, Wells, etc., to community banks and credit unions. Just check the solidity of the latter first on sites such as bankrate.com and bauerfinancial.
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:07 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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As Americans, the only thing that could save us is if we ousted and abolished the Morgan Reserve. How "our" government, Morgans financed confiscation tool, would or could go about this, I have no idea. Why would "government" kill the only source of its power? Without our Slavemaster's benevolent "loans", our government is bankrupt and has no "funding" to reamain in existence. Constitutional currency being reinstituted at this point in history is about as likely as the government overthrowing itself

As individuals, we can try to avoid the "legal market" as much as is possible. Counter-economics catching on is perhaps the only real chance of anything ever changing. Ideally, people would create and use their own form of "units of exchange" not subject to our masters.
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Crossville, TN
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I don't think it's all out "war" , and I don't think it's intentional. The wealthy and powerful continue to grow their wealth and power and if it just so happens that is squashes the middle class...well so be it. To them it's the equivelent of driving a large suv over an ant... they are oblivious to it. That's just my opinion.

You have that backwards. The rest of society is oblivious to the "rich" as they make it somewhat affordable for the rest of us to buy nice houses and vehicles (to distract us) while they control and manipulate the banking industries and our governments.
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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As we watch the news stories unfolding every day, how many of us really understand the causes behind the conflicts. It appears the wealthy have declared all out war on the people of the world in attempt to steal all assets, and enslave workers. News media spin conflicts to make it appear as if the divides are among countries, races, political parties, sexual orientation, or any other group with the exception of where the real division exists, between the wealthy and the ordinary people. Take the Greek debt problem, media tries to make it seem as if the people of Germany are bailing out the people of Greece. It reality it is the people of Germany and the people of Greece bailing out the Bankers in Germany and France. In this whole worldwide economic disaster, the one common string is that all the people, and their governments are in debt to World Wide Banking interests. It was banking interests that created this system of debt, and they did it with the intention of indebting the whole world. They have succeeded. They now control governments, media, energy, food, and every other aspect of life. They are now in the process of consolidating their power thru economic warfare as we have just seen in the banking and finance industry with the take over of companies like Lehman, Washington Mutual, and many others. In the next few years you will see the majority of small banks and financial institutions forced into bankruptcy and taken over by the developing trusts. As we watch the people in countries like Iceland and Greece attempt to stand up for their own interests, worldwide banking interests are decimating their standards of living and enacting wages and taxes which will ensure their slavery in the future. This is not new; it is what they have been doing thru the IMF and World Bank to third world countries for decades. It is a future that awaits us all, unless we stand up for ourselves and recognize our enemy is not our fellow workers, but the wealthy who are working endlessly to expand their power and control.
Nobody takes this sort of sophistry seriously anymore. Greece's problem are manifold, and here are some tidbits.

The Unions control the Government
The Government controls most aspects of Greek life
The Greeks want an opulant life but don't want to work for it
The Greeks get paid for 14 months, every year (12 monts) that is two months pay for no work, no expenses - for nothing
The Greeks retirne at age 53 with 80% of their salary, unless they are in a "hazardous" job, in which case they retire at 50 with 80%.
Musicians who play wood-wind instuments are deemed to be in a "hazardous" occupation.
Radion and TV people who speak into a microphone are deemed to be in a "hazardous" occupation.

Until and unless Greeks realize their can be no prosperity without comparable productivity, they are doomed, and since their ship-of-state is chained to other countries by the Euro, when they sink, it might bring them all down.
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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This is the most important thread on the whole of City-Data. I'll bet the OP reads www.economicpopulist.org, as his post could be a summary of that site's credo. Three years ago I wouldn't have believed this. By the way, there is something we can do as individuals. We can move our banking business from the mega-banks such as Chase, B of A, Wells, etc., to community banks and credit unions. Just check the solidity of the latter first on sites such as bankrate.com and bauerfinancial.

Let's take it a step further. Support the small mom and pop shops instead of the big box stores like Walmart.
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Nobody takes this sort of sophistry seriously anymore. Greece's problem are manifold, and here are some tidbits.

The Unions control the Government
The Government controls most aspects of Greek life
The Greeks want an opulant life but don't want to work for it
The Greeks get paid for 14 months, every year (12 monts) that is two months pay for no work, no expenses - for nothing
The Greeks retirne at age 53 with 80% of their salary, unless they are in a "hazardous" job, in which case they retire at 50 with 80%.
Musicians who play wood-wind instuments are deemed to be in a "hazardous" occupation.
Radion and TV people who speak into a microphone are deemed to be in a "hazardous" occupation.

Until and unless Greeks realize their can be no prosperity without comparable productivity, they are doomed, and since their ship-of-state is chained to other countries by the Euro, when they sink, it might bring them all down.
The working people of Greece have fallen victim to the same credit driven belief in prosperity thru borrowing that the Banking system has promoted worldwide and from which no people have been spared. The fact that they have been living above their means puts them in the same boat as the people of the rest of Europe, the United States, Japan, and most of the developed world. Their price for a few short years of the good life (if you call 22nd highest in the world good) will be decades of declining living standard and ever increasing amounts of their hard earned cash going to pay interest on loans to Bankers. Like drug dealers Bankers are willing to take the losses upfront in order to ensure your lifetime of slavery. Your condemnation of the Greeks just proves the point I was making in the OP. Your anger would be better placed where it belongs, at the ones who planned and executed this war against humanity. Years ago there were laws against usury and people were aware of its dangers. Our forefathers in this country warned us of the evil of banks and the men who seek power thru them. To our sorrow we have ignored their warnings. It is time now to recognize who our enemies are.
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