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Green energy will fail to meet current energy demand, but it will eventually be all we have left. Using less energy is the simple answer that fake greens don't want to hear.
I finally got a gas cooktop and a gas dryer recently to use less electricity and bring down my total energy use (in Joules). My laundry now dries faster compared to the previous electric one.
In Houston, gas heat is common in modern (post-1980) single-family homes. But surprisingly Texas is an electric heat state according to this analysis:
When the power went out in Texas last month, most people lost their heat too. Sixty-one percent of occupied housing units in the state rely on electricity for heating, according to the Census Bureau, versus 39.5% nationally. Only six states, all also in the South, have a higher electricity share.
Dependence on electric heat also drove the demand surge that helped cause the Texas blackouts in the first place.
Now I'm wondering where the distribution of electric heat is spread around the state. Is it more common in the other major Texas cities?, Rural Texas?, etc.
It doesn't make sense to use burn natural gas to generate electricity for heat (with energy loss for conversion and transmission) instead of using minimal electricity to operate the burner at the furnace (and other domestic appliances).
Would not dare to push the Texas "deregulated" electric grid over the edge again! (Luckily the GOP did not touch the other gas, water, or telecommunications utilities.)
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Agreed. Solar goes MUCH better as smaller and "behind the meter."
The "big field" model is from Industrial Corporate Capitalism.
Same folks that brought US Coal, Oil and Gas.
Then the grid will be in the same shape as the landline telephone infrastructure. As the affluent opt-out of the electric grid, the poor will be forced to put up with a shabby public system.
The middle-class will be spending more money on maintenance and replacement of solar panels and batteries, just as they do with smartphone upgrades and multiple-line "family" mobile phone plans and become much poorer. (Previously it was just a box on the side of the house requiring little-to-no intervention and cost of service was a nominal monthly payment.)
The out-of-touch situation only reveals that these "solutions" are contrived (by wealthy eco-warriors) to be affordable at a professional's income. Most Americans don't have that kind disposable income to bear proper maintenance of that infrastructure.
Looks like green energy is making some progress. Not down and out yet.
World average is 39%, US is 40%.
Share of electricity from low carbon sources by country for 2020. You can add countries to the chart.
EVs are taking a bite out of road fuel consumption but it will be 20 years before the full effects are felt.
Road fuel demand currently accounts for 45Mbpd out of total daily oil demand of 97Mbpd.
The excerpt is from Bloomberg NEF.
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Demand drops by 18.8 million b/d by 2050 vs 2019
The U.S. and Europe lead declines in consumption
As demand for road fuels like gasoline and diesel recovers post-pandemic in markets such as the U.S. and Spain, long-term road fuel demand is set to drop dramatically, according to BloombergNEF.
Electric Vehicle Outlook 2021
While road fuel demand looks set to peak in 2027, the impact of advancements is not materially felt until almost a decade later. Efficiency improvements disrupt growth this side of 2030, before alternative drivetrains and autonomous vehicles cut into road fuel use in the longer term.
Emissions almost halve by 2050, but the sector gets nowhere near net zero. By the 2050s fossil-derived road fuel demand falls below levels last seen in the early 1970s. Oil-related emissions drop to 3.4 gigatons CO2 by 2050, down from almost 6.5Gt in 2019.
Fuel producers with exposure to markets like the U.S. or Europe, like BP and Shell, may see sales of diesel and gasoline decline significantly from current levels over the next decade. On the other side of the world, in markets like India and China, demand growth that ‘could have been’ fails to materialize.
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WITH THE DUMMIES WE HAVE IN POWER - - -
WE'RE [BLEEPED].
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Why?
Let us engage some "common sense"... (that alone, dispenses with the Karbonite Alarmism)
Population keeps going up.
Fuel (Energy) consumption will go up, as well.
Food consumption will go up, too.
. . .
With these THREE self evident issues, we can safely predict that we will need
__ more human habitat
__ more food production
__ more resources devoted to habitat, production, AND transportation
. . .
It is becoming very obvious that relying on "Green" renewable resources is not a sustainable remedy.
__ "Renewable" sources take up more and more resources (raw materials for batteries, land and air space for hydroelectric, solar photovoltaic panels, wind powered turbines impact avian habitat, and so on)
__ Those resources cannot scale with the population growth, and increased demand for more agricultural production, as well as transportation of people and cargo.
Remedy is simple : reduce consumption of resources.
<> Consolidate population into villages, towns, cities
<> Recover / expand arable land (deconstruct suburban sprawl, where practical)
<> Reduce resources needed for habitat (Ex: superinsulated dwellings)
<> Reduce resources needed for transportation (Ex: electric traction rail (steel wheel on steel rail)
<> Return to mixed use zoning (small businesses and apartments in close proximity)
........
Transitioning 85%-90% to rail transit (90% energy savings) will result in a 81% reduction in fossil fuel consumption.
Coordinating new construction with new rail rights of way should also produce significant reduction of fuel and resources. (Electric cars are NOT the solution, for they are as wasteful of resources as their ICE predecessors)
Mixed use zoning will minimize the time and distance to connect goods and services to the consumer, boosting efficiency.
Such remedies will "break the rice bowl" of countless entrenched interests that grew rich from skimming from the (m)asses, who were compelled to fund and subsidize the most wasteful forms of housing, development and transportation.
In plainer terms, government meddling is at fault.
More government meddling is not the solution.
To illustrate, between 1890 - 1920, American cities established electric powered urban mass transit and interurban transit networks with private funding. The obvious reason was that it was the MOST EFFICIENT, and thus the MOST PROFITABLE way to move passengers and / or cargo.
Why did they go bust?
Government meddling. Number one was the ever increasing tax burden, while governments imposed FARE CAPS (to appease the voters). This placed the transit companies in an impossible situation - where they could not shift the rising taxes to their customers - so they had to scale back spending on maintenance and expansion. Eventually, they went bankrupt or were "liberated" by their nemesis, the government, which took over these essential transportation systems.
Here's a good analysis of what's needed to decarbonize electricity production in the coming years.
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The United States reduced carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from the electricity sector by 40 percent between 2005 and 2020 as natural gas, wind, and solar replaced coal. President Biden wants to slash emissions further by 2030 and eliminate them by 2035. But to meet this goal, the country can no longer rely on the main lever it has deployed so far to reduce emissions—switching from coal to gas. Instead, the rate of decarbonization will depend on new solar or wind facilities being cheaper to construct than it is to operate an existing plant on fossil fuels.
Then the grid will be in the same shape as the landline telephone infrastructure. As the affluent opt-out of the electric grid, the poor will be forced to put up with a shabby public system.
The middle-class will be spending more money on maintenance and replacement of solar panels and batteries, just as they do with smartphone upgrades and multiple-line "family" mobile phone plans and become much poorer. (Previously it was just a box on the side of the house requiring little-to-no intervention and cost of service was a nominal monthly payment.)
The out-of-touch situation only reveals that these "solutions" are contrived (by wealthy eco-warriors) to be affordable at a professional's income. Most Americans don't have that kind disposable income to bear proper maintenance of that infrastructure.
Sorry on the slow note. I do not think you are following what is really going on.
Most Solar (way over 99% being installed) is "Grid-Tied." Utility scale generally feeds directly at "wholesale" onto the Grid, and local "behind the meter" -- like say on most houses and businesses -- offsets the local use and sends surplus up to the Grid.
BOTH of these support and use the Grid. As more-and-more daytime Solar PV comes online, we will be able to use and shift more-and-more loads into the daytime and everyone benefits. Same for US, Europe, China and around the world. Things are all going well in this regard. Could be going faster, but at least for right here, right now -- steady progress is being made.
Sorry on the slow note. I do not think you are following what is really going on.
Most Solar (way over 99% being installed) is "Grid-Tied." Utility scale generally feeds directly at "wholesale" onto the Grid, and local "behind the meter" -- like say on most houses and businesses -- offsets the local use and sends surplus up to the Grid.
BOTH of these support and use the Grid. As more-and-more daytime Solar PV comes online, we will be able to use and shift more-and-more loads into the daytime and everyone benefits. Same for US, Europe, China and around the world. Things are all going well in this regard. Could be going faster, but at least for right here, right now -- steady progress is being made.
Grid-tied was 10 years ago. Lately (and sadly) I have seen proposals from the electric utility and solar P.R.-driven Electrify Everything environmentalist greenwashing movement about "self-sufficiency" by adding a battery and seceding from the grid.
This would enable selfish, affluent white Texas suburbanites to secede from the ERCOT grid and leave mostly poor minorities on the disinvested grid. The Generac booth at my local Costco piqued so much interest among those affluent suburbanites because of the recent winter storm, but it's a temptation-laden first step to secession.
"Self-sufficiency" will also short-circuit interest among Texans in joining the Eastern Interconnection (Why bother?). Luckily, Houston is the only major Texas city directly adjacent to the Eastern grid and there has been a push by Harris County leadership to secede from ERCOT and become the first to join the federal grid.
Who is telling you Green/Solar/Electrics won't work? The seller of the alternative, big oil...
Electrics have been around over 100 years. They aren't a new technology.
They're an ignored technology.
Who is telling you Green/Solar/Electrics won't work? The seller of the alternative, big oil...
Electrics have been around over 100 years. They aren't a new technology.
A 1919 photograph shows electric car produced for Anderson Electric Car Co. with Mt. Rainier in the distance.
It didn't catch on then, and it wouldn't be catching on now if it weren't for govt intervention via Buddy Capitalism.
The Babylonians invented the Leyden Jar 4000 yrs ago, and we're still using the same, inefficient paradigm for storage of electrical power.
Did you watch the video that I posted to start the thread? Green energy is both not as green as advertised, and also requires resources that, if green energy tried to take over, there aren't enough of.
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Originally Posted by grafikfeats
Who is telling you Green/Solar/Electrics won't work? The seller of the alternative, big oil...
Electrics have been around over 100 years. They aren't a new technology.
They're an ignored technology.
A 1919 photograph shows electric car produced for Anderson Electric Car Co. with Mt. Rainier in the distance.
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