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Lever guns were pretty popular on farms. Winchester 1892 and 1894 chambered for .30-30. The 1894 surely dominated sales in the early 20th century. They were also chambered in pistol calibers such as .45 Colt ( often referred to generally and incorrectly as .45 Long Colt, but it is proper usage today after being used so long), or .44-40.
The 1892 was never chambered in 30-30. It was (and is) strictly a "pistol caliber" rifle/carbine. And until recently, the 92 and 94 were not chambered in .45 Colt, as the original cartridge had a rim that was too small for reliable ejection. The 94 was not chambered in pistol calibers at all until recently (post 1980).
What did happen to all the submachine guns developed and used for WW2 like the Tommy, MP40s, PPSh-41s? Were they "sporterized" and made semi auto for the civilian market? Or were they sold to third world allies in prep for the Cold War?
What did happen to all the submachine guns developed and used for WW2 like the Tommy, MP40s, PPSh-41s? Were they "sporterized" and made semi auto for the civilian market? Or were they sold to third world allies in prep for the Cold War?
Well - I do remember a semi-auto version of the Sterling (with 16" barrel) being on the civilian market in the '80s - they even made a pistol version of it as well - kinda sci-fi looking, but completely impractical with that side-mounted magazine - how are you gonna holster that??
Well - I do remember a semi-auto version of the Sterling (with 16" barrel) being on the civilian market in the '80s - they even made a pistol version of it as well - kinda sci-fi looking, but completely impractical with that side-mounted magazine - how are you gonna holster that??
The Sterling is the inspiration for the Star Wars Imperial Storm Trooper Blasters.
My father had a lever action 30-30..........probably winchester and a 38 revolver..........he made his own dum-dums for the rifle,making an X on the lead... said it helped drop possums and dog packs.......he used to sit on our front porch and read the paper waiting for a gopher to poke his head out of a hole.....try hitting a gophers head at 10-15 yards with a 38 revolver........he was a hell of a shot............later in the 60's he bought a couple of colt .45 semi-auto's...........he like em because he fired expert with them in the marines in WW-2. I suppose he was typical of midwestern farmers then......
Well - I do remember a semi-auto version of the Sterling (with 16" barrel) being on the civilian market in the '80s - they even made a pistol version of it as well - kinda sci-fi looking, but completely impractical with that side-mounted magazine - how are you gonna holster that??
It wouldn’t have been a modified sub machine gun. BATF official policy is “once a machine gun, always a machine gun.” The provisions of NFA ‘34 can’t be defeated by converting a machine gun to semi auto only. Those guns, and others like them, are built on newly manufactured receivers using surplus parts.
Many of those type of Frankenstein guns from that era were semi auto only, but fired from an open bolt, like the original. BATF has ended that as well, and newer versions of semi auto only “machine guns” are required to fire from the closed bolt, necessitating completely redesigned bolt/firing pin/hammer/fire control parts.
Most were most popular police firearms for European cops pre-wonder 9 era?
I know in England the regular patrol cops dont have sidearms, but I know France, Italy, and everywhere is like America. Did they buy American revolvers too?
What about the SWAT teams? What they use before HK created the MP5? Apparently the first SWAT created by Philly to deal with bank robberies in the 60s. What guns did they use?
What did happen to all the submachine guns developed and used for WW2 like the Tommy, MP40s, PPSh-41s? Were they "sporterized" and made semi auto for the civilian market? Or were they sold to third world allies in prep for the Cold War?
Many sold to 3rd world countries or police forces in the 50s and 60s, used for a couple decades then destroyed and replaced by AK's and M16 variants. None were sporterized that I know of, would take to much work to convert to semi-auto. Now they are all essentially obsolete except as collector pieces but they still pop up from time to time in backwater conflict areas - Syria Civil War and Libya conflicts, as well as Iraq, had some good examples of museum grade WWII weapons popping up in battle that Abdul's grandfather buried in the back yard decades ago, including, amazingly, old nazi STG44s. If only they knew how much those weapons are worth now.
A few gun manufacturers issue semi-automatic versions of the above even today, as novelty and collector guns, including the Tommy Gun.
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