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Funny cuz my Dad always used to tell me only to swim in murky, turbid water, near a stream or other freshwater outflow, at night, alone.
I wonder what he was really trying to tell me?
Sounds like an Emo Philips joke. "When I was a little boy, we had a quicksand box. I was an only child.... eventually." Or, "People always make fun of those little old ladies who dig around in garbage cans, but when I was a baby, they saved my life many times."
OK, sorry. Sharks... right. We're talking about sharks.
I know it's an incredibly beautiful animal, but I never liked seeing the damned things when I was snorkeling on the Big Island. It's an impressive fish to see, and watch them glide through the water like a living knife, and yeah, I know the chances of a tiger taking a taste of you is extremely remote, but they made the hair stand up on the back of my neck every damned time.
... possibly the most unlikely is this one, that I'm some kind of Wikipedia addict. You've posted that bogus claim so often that now even your remoras have taken to repeating it as if it were fact, when it clearly is not true at all, to anyone who actually pays attention.
Why are you being so bashful, and hiding your light under a bushel? The title is yours to claim! I will not contest it! You are, in fact, the Champion Wikipedia User here! A simple fact check shows that as far as the Hawai'i forum is concerned, you post Wikipedia links here at a rate that is about 4X my own! All hail the Wkipedia Champion whtviper1!
A quick search of the archives, for example, shows that in the last 6 months you have posted 787 posts, while I have posted 853, so overall I have posted slightly more often than you. No argument there. Think of it as me giving you a small head start on having fewer Wikipedia posts than me.
But looking for your posts that include the word "Wikipedia" shows that it appears in 29 of your posts, but in only 14 of mine. So even on the most basic measure your rate-of-use of this word is more than double my own, so that's a big quick pull into the lead for you.
But wait, there's more... using the Search feature here to dig a little deeper among those 29 posts of yours, there are 23 links to Wikipedia, on topics such as Chinatown, Linda Lingle, Same Sex, Humans, Civil Unions, Galvanization, Garbage Patch, Life Expectancy, Primo Brewing, Countries by Population, Eminent Domain, Hawai'i, List of Hurricanes, Culture of US, Volcano, Hawai'i, Hawai'i, Culture of US, Kailua, Maui Fever, Dog the Bounty Hunter, and Shark Attack.
My own rate-of use seems puny by comparison... among my 14 posts a paltry 6 were links to Wikipedia. My topics were: ISO Container Dimensions, Photo of Queen K, Kailua-Kona, Sugar Plantations, U of H Hilo, International Court of Justice.
Even a quick qualitative scan shows that yours were far more general in nature, supporting major premises you were putting out on the forum, substituting for original thought, sometimes constituting "appeals to authority," whereas mine were more targeted facts, like what the inside dimensions of a shipping container are.
A simple calculation shows that you provided links to Wikipedia in an average of 2.9% of your posts, while my average was only 0.7%. You beat me fair and square by a rate of Wikipedia useage more than 4X my own.
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Yes, whtviper1 IS the Champion Wikipedia User here.
A shark bite or attack is nothing like bumping into to you. If all the shark did was bump into you, you wouldn't be bleeding or possible DIE.
Predatory animals, when hunting, do eat people from time to time.
You, and others, misunderstood what I was trying to say... that while the news tends to report every incident as an attack, only some can clearly be described as an attack, where the shark bites over and over, as opposed to a single bite, after which the shark swims away.
The scientists studying the matter describe these as "bumping into you" rather than deliberate attacks. Telling the difference is a key item in trying to understand why we've had such a big upsurge in shark incidents this year, and looking for ways to reduce them... other than keeping everyone out of the water.
We had another shark bite report off the southeast end of the Big Island Wednesday. Notice the headline uses "attack" while the story uses "bitten" for what, as I understand it, was a single bite. Contrast that with the Pohiki attack in August in which the victim received 13 bites...
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Shark attack closes Big Isle beach
A 29-year-old man was reportedly bitten by a tiger shark in the shallows of Ninole Bay on the south shore of the Big Isle this morning, prompting county officials to close the bay and neighboring Punaluu Beach.
A 29-year-old Captain Cook man reported being bitten by a 10- to 12-foot Tiger shark this morning off Naalehu on the Big Island.
Hawaii County police said the victim's injuries were non-life threatening, They closed Ninole Bay until noon Thursday.
The victim was bodyboarding at 8 a.m. with two friends in the area of Ninole Bay, just south of Punaluu Beach Park, and was 20 yards off shore in eight feet of water when the shark attack occurred.
His friends said it was a Tiger shark.
Police interviewed the bodyboarder at Kau Hospital, where he was expected to be released later today.
In August, a 16-year-old Kalapana bodyboarding at "Dead Trees" at Pohiki on Hawaii Island was attacked by a 10-foot grey shark. The teenager sustained multiple cuts and puncture wounds to his legs.
Jimmy Ulualoha "Ulu Boy" Napeahi was bitten 13 times, suffered 30 wounds and received more than 180 stitches in the Aug. 18 attack.
One of the many theories being investigated about why shark incidents are up this year is that changing climate is changing the food supply the sharks are used to. Naalehu is one of the places sea turtles are abundant, and you can often see them surfing in to the black sand beach there. And tiger sharks eat sea turtles. So surfing in an area where a lot of sea turtles are out swimming strikes me as inherently risky. Even if the sharks are looking for turtles and just bump into you and reflexively bite and then spit you out it could ruin your whole day.
I know it's an incredibly beautiful animal, but I never liked seeing the damned things when I was snorkeling on the Big Island. It's an impressive fish to see, and watch them glide through the water like a living knife, and yeah, I know the chances of a tiger taking a taste of you is extremely remote, but they made the hair stand up on the back of my neck every damned time.
I'm with you on that. Even seeing sharks in an aquarium, like at Monterrey Bay, they spook me. I have a lot of appreciation for their biological magnificence, and physical beauty, and for their important role as an apex predator in the overall health of their ecological niche... which is why we don't just go kill them all to solve our "shark problem"... but they evoke some deep primal fear response in me.
Their companions, the remoras, on the other hand, don't seem to be dangerous to humans, but they give me the creeps. AKA suckerfish, they just latch on for the ride, particularly on sharks, but also on turtles and whales and other sea animals. They don't seem to be parasitic, nor do they harm their hosts. At one time it was thought they might be symbiotic, providing some benefit to the host... such as cattle egrets provide by eating bugs that dig into cattle's skin. But no, remoras may eat some parasites from the host's skin, but it seems a minor task. And they may eat some of the shark's scraps, but so what? All in all, it doesn't appear that they do much except hang around by clamping on with that big sucker in their head. Creepy!
By the sound of it OD, I'd say you had the blender at warp speed last night.
'But Captain, the Dilithium Crystals can't take any more!!!!'
or was that the Oster
Don't forget the power of time-shifting!
Did you know the cocktail blender was invented by Fred Waring, the popular bandleader of the mid-1900s? He loved icy cocktails, so he developed a little machine to make them more easily, and his Waring blenders were soon found in bars everywhere.
Some cocktail recipes are a little too involved to make one at a time. The following is for a pitcher full, and you don't even need a blender...
Shark Attack Cocktail for 6
1/4 cup tequila
1/4 cup triple sec
1/4 cup 151 proof rum
1/2 cup orange juice
1/4 cup pineapple juice
1/4 cup lemon slices
1/4 cup pineapple chunk
1/4 cup maraschino cherry, plus more for garnish
1 glug grenadine syrup
Put 2 cups of ice in a pitcher, add ingredients, stir until well chilled
Serve in rocks glass, garnish with fruit
And the Champion Wikipedia User here is... wait for it... wait...
Of all the weird canards* you keep sniping at me with, whenever you can work it in...
... possibly the most unlikely is this one, that I'm some kind of Wikipedia addict. You've posted that bogus claim so often that now even your remoras have taken to repeating it as if it were fact, when it clearly is not true at all, to anyone who actually pays attention.
Why are you being so bashful, and hiding your light under a bushel? The title is yours to claim! I will not contest it! You are, in fact, the Champion Wikipedia User here! A simple fact check shows that as far as the Hawai'i forum is concerned, you post Wikipedia links here at a rate that is about 4X my own! All hail the Wkipedia Champion whtviper1!
A quick search of the archives, for example, shows that in the last 6 months you have posted 787 posts, while I have posted 853, so overall I have posted slightly more often than you. No argument there. Think of it as me giving you a small head start on having fewer Wikipedia posts than me.
But looking for your posts that include the word "Wikipedia" shows that it appears in 29 of your posts, but in only 14 of mine. So even on the most basic measure your rate-of-use of this word is more than double my own, so that's a big quick pull into the lead for you.
But wait, there's more... using the Search feature here to dig a little deeper among those 29 posts of yours, there are 23 links to Wikipedia, on topics such as Chinatown, Linda Lingle, Same Sex, Humans, Civil Unions, Galvanization, Garbage Patch, Life Expectancy, Primo Brewing, Countries by Population, Eminent Domain, Hawai'i, List of Hurricanes, Culture of US, Volcano, Hawai'i, Hawai'i, Culture of US, Kailua, Maui Fever, Dog the Bounty Hunter, and Shark Attack.
My own rate-of use seems puny by comparison... among my 14 posts a paltry 6 were links to Wikipedia. My topics were: ISO Container Dimensions, Photo of Queen K, Kailua-Kona, Sugar Plantations, U of H Hilo, International Court of Justice.
Even a quick qualitative scan shows that yours were far more general in nature, supporting major premises you were putting out on the forum, substituting for original thought, sometimes constituting "appeals to authority," whereas mine were more targeted facts, like what the inside dimensions of a shipping container are.
A simple calculation shows that you provided links to Wikipedia in an average of 2.9% of your posts, while my average was only 0.7%. You beat me fair and square by a rate of Wikipedia useage more than 4X my own.
You, and others, misunderstood what I was trying to say... that while the news tends to report every incident as an attack, only some can clearly be described as an attack, where the shark bites over and over, as opposed to a single bite, after which the shark swims away.
The scientists studying the matter describe these as "bumping into you" rather than deliberate attacks. Telling the difference is a key item in trying to understand why we've had such a big upsurge in shark incidents this year, and looking for ways to reduce them... other than keeping everyone out of the water.
We had another shark bite report off the southeast end of the Big Island Wednesday. Notice the headline uses "attack" while the story uses "bitten" for what, as I understand it, was a single bite. Contrast that with the Pohiki attack in August in which the victim received 13 bites...
One of the many theories being investigated about why shark incidents are up this year is that changing climate is changing the food supply the sharks are used to. Naalehu is one of the places sea turtles are abundant, and you can often see them surfing in to the black sand beach there. And tiger sharks eat sea turtles. So surfing in an area where a lot of sea turtles are out swimming strikes me as inherently risky. Even if the sharks are looking for turtles and just bump into you and reflexively bite and then spit you out it could ruin your whole day.
I'm with you on that. Even seeing sharks in an aquarium, like at Monterrey Bay, they spook me. I have a lot of appreciation for their biological magnificence, and physical beauty, and for their important role as an apex predator in the overall health of their ecological niche... which is why we don't just go kill them all to solve our "shark problem"... but they evoke some deep primal fear response in me.
Their companions, the remoras, on the other hand, don't seem to be dangerous to humans, but they give me the creeps. AKA suckerfish, they just latch on for the ride, particularly on sharks, but also on turtles and whales and other sea animals. They don't seem to be parasitic, nor do they harm their hosts. At one time it was thought they might be symbiotic, providing some benefit to the host... such as cattle egrets provide by eating bugs that dig into cattle's skin. But no, remoras may eat some parasites from the host's skin, but it seems a minor task. And they may eat some of the shark's scraps, but so what? All in all, it doesn't appear that they do much except hang around by clamping on with that big sucker in their head. Creepy!
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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Well, a big SHOUT OUT, and, ALOHA!!!!!! to our own intrepid, agoraphobic tiger shark #133369, who, on December 16, 2013, made it ALL THE WAY!!!!!, almost, not quite, but nearly, to the south shore of Oahu, to do some last minute Christmas chomping, (almost, as in about 20 miles west of Hale o Lono, south-west shore, Molokai)
As all of #133369s followers, admirers, and inevitable groupies know, this diminutive little fellow, (not even 10 feet, all the wahines are over 12 foot, but don't call him 'short', what he lacks in length he more than makes up for in want of wanderlust!) very rarely wanders out of Maalaea Bay, comes to the surface far more often than any of the other tracked tigers, (shark specialists suspect he is either asthmatic, or just friggin lost, coming to the surface looking for landmarks). He has now been fitted not only with the transmitter that sends his location, but also a microphone modified with a special ACME SMD IC#225NPN12Z, which can automatically translate sharkese into almost intelligible English. His last transmission, the one from mid channel between Oahu and Molokai, consisted of the following, somewhat broken, perhaps garbled, words,,,
"Hey, where da frick am I", followed by, "That tastes pilau!!!",,,, "Hey, bruddah, BODDAH YOU???,,, LIKE BEEF??? nah, I mean really, I like beef, dat lass stuff taste like crap!! IT WAS???" and, "Man, it's deep out hea",,, "Dis taste bad to you?',,,, "Dat friggin barge almos wen run me ovah!!!" and, last transmission,,
MELE KALIKI DA KINE!!!!!
"eh, bruddah, uuuurrrrpppp, e olu oe, dis taste bad to you"
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Shark Attack Cocktail
