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Old 03-23-2020, 05:12 PM
 
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Just talking to a friend in PA and she and I think so much alike...she's also very much into strengthening her immune system and will be 83 this year. Anyway we caught up and compared notes on how things are going in PA vs CA..I reminded her CA has 40 million population. PA about 13 million or so. BUT.

She brought up this testing frenzy and said something I have been thinking all along. What will the testing do...there are no drugs, anything for this specific CV, so I say just treat it like a flu/virus and work to get better. A person knows when they don't fell well, at that point, start the healing on ones' own. Or maybe plant the theory that one has the virus. I have not done that, but I don't believe I'll get it, mind work, And following a lot of the pointers out there on prevention and healing.
You can't fight off something in the first place if you weren't infected and you can still pass it on to other people. Testing gives an idea where the spreaders are, and alerts the authorities to isolate those cases instead of locking everyone down.
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Old 03-23-2020, 05:24 PM
 
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You can't fight off something in the first place if you weren't infected and you can still pass it on to other people. Testing gives an idea where the spreaders are, and alerts the authorities to isolate those cases instead of locking everyone down.
So the testing is VERY limited, isn't it. If I'm not feeling well, I stay low..not out there spreading what I MAY have.
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Old 03-23-2020, 06:09 PM
 
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Just talking to a friend in PA and she and I think so much alike...she's also very much into strengthening her immune system and will be 83 this year. Anyway we caught up and compared notes on how things are going in PA vs CA..I reminded her CA has 40 million population. PA about 13 million or so. BUT.

She brought up this testing frenzy and said something I have been thinking all along. What will the testing do...there are no drugs, anything for this specific CV, so I say just treat it like a flu/virus and work to get better. A person knows when they don't fell well, at that point, start the healing on ones' own. Or maybe plant the theory that one has the virus. I have not done that, but I don't believe I'll get it, mind work, And following a lot of the pointers out there on prevention and healing.
Testing will:
1. Help you not spread it to others in the future
2. Put you up to date in any databases so when you can't breathe and go to the hospital they will know what to do right away (ventilator) as opposed to guessing and testing.
3. Inform others who you may have already infected...and who then they may infect.
4. There ARE known treatments which can mitigate it...no "cures" and no vaccines, but your odds of making it in a hospital with advanced care are much better than wishing and praying at home.

There is absolutely no reason to NOT test if one suspects and within a few weeks there is likely to be more instant tests - even "test at home" and see results within the hour.
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Old 03-23-2020, 06:12 PM
 
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So the testing is VERY limited, isn't it. If I'm not feeling well, I stay low..not out there spreading what I MAY have.
According to the Admin. there are millions of tests - available to anyone.

According to reports from the field, there are not many available.

The truth is somewhere in-between. NY is doing 16,000+ a day I think.

Florida is only doing about 1,000.

No doubt it is a mess. But depending on where you live you may be able to get tested fairly easily (drive up, etc.)...
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Old 03-23-2020, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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According to the Admin. there are millions of tests - available to anyone.

According to reports from the field, there are not many available.

The truth is somewhere in-between. NY is doing 16,000+ a day I think.

Florida is only doing about 1,000.

No doubt it is a mess. But depending on where you live you may be able to get tested fairly easily (drive up, etc.)...
I have no desire to do a test and if that ever changes with me, time will tell. I know when I'm not well and as I've said so much I really keep myself healthy and strong.

So many theories and so many thoughts on all this, I'm on other groups and hear so many many comments on the why's and wherefores...there are the panickers and those keeping calmer.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:47 PM
 
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People with the worse symptoms are going to get treated anyway so it's a complete waste to test them.
No, it's not. The treatment they receive will be different depending on what they have. You don't treat COVID-19 the same as you treat the flu, for example, and vice versa.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:51 PM
 
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According to the Admin. there are millions of tests - available to anyone.

According to reports from the field, there are not many available.

The truth is somewhere in-between. NY is doing 16,000+ a day I think.

Florida is only doing about 1,000.

No doubt it is a mess. But depending on where you live you may be able to get tested fairly easily (drive up, etc.)...
New York has tested so many people because they developed their own test. They literally pleaded with the CDC weeks ago for more tests to no avail. So they just developed their own. If they were still waiting for the CDC and federal government, they wouldn't have been able to test so many people.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:02 PM
 
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The other question is-- how long is that negative test good for? About 2 seconds if the tech who took your sample unknowingly has it and coughs on you.

A positive test is only good to know about if you're an epidemiologist. A negative test is worthless. We still need to act on assumptions, not test results of precarious value.
No kidding. Use common sense people.

If you have symptoms you have been told to stay home and treat yourself. IF your symptoms become unmanageable then call your doctor/go to the hospital.

No need to waste time and money on unnecessary testing.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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No kidding. Use common sense people.

If you have symptoms you have been told to stay home and treat yourself. IF your symptoms become unmanageable then call your doctor/go to the hospital.

No need to waste time and money on unnecessary testing.
I repped you but want to give you a printed rep, smart advice.
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Old 03-23-2020, 11:22 PM
 
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So the testing is VERY limited, isn't it. If I'm not feeling well, I stay low..not out there spreading what I MAY have.
Most kids and young people with COVID don't feel all that bad. If they don't know that they have COVID, they are unlikely to self quarantine and will easily spread it to others.

If testing was not resource-limited, then it's a good idea to test everyone. If testing is limited then it's more prudent to focus on certain groups/people.

People who know they have COVID will behave differently/better to avoid spreading to others compared to people who have it and don't know they have it.
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