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I specifically asked you not to repeat, yet you do once more. I asked why. You have already provided the list, three times now, and you have specified that success is defined by the most robust reproduction.
My question was why that reproductive element is more important than the other elements you listed. You have not answered that question, only repeated the classifications.
Do you not understand? How could I make myself any more clear?
I am not after another presentation of the classifications, so unconfuse yourself about that.
Surely you are not ducking the question, not someone who so freely calls others cowards.
i have already explained my reasoning! if you can't follow, thats your problem.
disagree, fine; but don't cowardly define the whole discussion as folly because you don't have, or refuse to admit, your position!
again, i've already said that 'race' is a purely social construct, however that does not negate its impact! how you can even argue this is beyond me! besides religion and perhaps gender or language; what human segragating criteria has divided us more throughout history
which is one reason why i chose to discuss 'race'.
I actually can't follow because you have not actually defined anything. You have made a rather succinct statement and invoked a generality. What you have not done is provide an actual explanation on why. Why is the "most numerous" the best definition of success? Why do you feel you can claim Caucasoid "hegemony", etc.?
I am claiming folly because I fail to see the relevancy of the discussion. "Most succesful" is an incredibly subjective term. Of course concepts of race have impacted history, but you are not seeking to explore those within a defined environment, time period or event where they could be logically addressed. By applying the flawed concept to the totality of human history you are engaging in nothing but a fool's errand.
Please list the reasons why you chose to discuss "race"...
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Originally Posted by niedo
doesn't matter!
again, you're acting cowardly. based on bone structure, most ancient Egyptians are considered caucasion by most anthropoligists.
Of course it matters. If you can't see how it matters, it simply proves your shortcomings in approaching this topic and why it is all irrelevant.
The human races ('white/caucasian', 'black/African', etc.) have no biological basis.
Biologically define, for example, the black race. Well? You can't. You can define a biological race - taxonomists do this all the time. To say that there are biological differences between one given white person and one given black person, and that this means there is a biological basis to human races, profoundly misunderstands the situation.
Name a single gene that all white people possess and that no black people possess. Well? You can't there isn't one. Not one.
Why?
Because race in terms of the human races is a social construct.
Yep.
By that standard, North Koreans are more 'successful' as a collective group than, say, Norwegians. Odd idea of success, that.
Was it Jesse Owens winning the 200 meter sprint at the 1936 Berlin Olympics?
The Jamaicans are doing pretty good right now in the sprints. Jimmy Johnson is kicking tail too
As far as the many derivatives of the human race go, it looks like various Ethnic/Racial groups have had their turn, but more often than not it is a national identity. Currently the most dominant culture would the US which of course is quite mixed. If China becomes the next dominant culture it won't be because of their ethnic make up.
What about the Jews, with their global conspiracy?
Oh yeah..All the banks and diamonds and they control Valentines day, chocolate and hallmark cards to convince stupid men to buy diamonds, flowers and cards for women...They are powerful. And don't forget about King David!
Jesse Owens won the Olympic race and also won the battle of the human race against the so-called master race in disproving Hitler and Goebbels' ideological racial propaganda theories against non-aryan peoples as being "unfit"
As who was most "fit" to win the Olympic race...Jesse Owens
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