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Old 03-06-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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NJGoat's views are so US centric they are a joke at times. I have locked horns with him in the past. Why should I engage in a dead thread?
And yours are equally UK centric. Stalemate.
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Old 03-06-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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And yours are equally UK centric. Stalemate.
Indeed true.

He rotates between screaming that stale old nonsense about coming late and describing our forces as glorified Boy Scouts, unskilled, unneeded, and of no use to anyone.

It's factually incorrect as well as boorish, but the Brits are a very nationalistic lot.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: London
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And yours are equally UK centric. Stalemate.
No. I look at facts and analyse. I do not get my history from Hollywood and poor History Channel documentaries. Americans have been strung a line since WW2 making out they were better than they actually were. Anything against that grain and many react.

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Old 03-06-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: London
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He rotates between screaming that stale old nonsense about coming late and describing our forces as glorified Boy Scouts, unskilled, unneeded, and of no use to anyone.

It's factually incorrect as well as boorish, but the Brits are a very nationalistic lot.
Screaming? No. There was some truth in what you wrote though. In 1939 when WW2 started, the US army in size stood at 19th, just below Bulgaria and Romania. The massive inflation of size meant the army had few who knew how to run it. The poor performance of its top generals (most were colonels only a few years before being in command of armies) was clear to see.

BTW, the Brits are not nationalistic. Travel around the UK, you will rarely see the union flag flying. Travel around the USA, that flag is constantly in your face.

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Old 03-06-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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Indeed true.

He rotates between screaming that stale old nonsense about coming late and describing our forces as glorified Boy Scouts, unskilled, unneeded, and of no use to anyone.

It's factually incorrect as well as boorish, but the Brits are a very nationalistic lot.
A product of the malaise in the British Historical Community I like to call - BSS - British Superiority Syndrome. They still can't get over the period of history when the sun never set on the British Empire. "England Rules the Waves", hip hip, cheerio, Rule Britannia!, and all that. So it's not to downgrade the US necessarily, but to upgrade Britain and what once was.

Read any history authored by a Brit. I find it kind of endearing.

Don't take it personal John-UK, you give your alternative UK-centric view and it has a place here.

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Old 03-06-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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A product of the malaise in the British Historical Community I like to call - BSS - British Superiority Syndrome. They still can't get over the period of history when the sun never set on the British Empire. "England Rules the Waves", hip hip, cheerio, Rule Britannia!, and all that. So it's not to downgrade the US necessarily, but to upgrade Britain and what once was.

Read any history authored by a Brit. I find it kind of endearing.

Don't take it personal John-UK, you give your view and it has a place here.
I do not give alternative views.

Most British do not care about an empire that costed to run. One that was scheduled to be broken up prior to WW2, Canada, Australia and NZ were all self governing. It is arguable that it still exits, in the form of the British Commonwealth, which was an idea of the former nations not Britain. BTW, two countries requested to join and accepted that were never in the empire, Mozambique and Rwanda. Israel was considering applying with France in the 1950s suggesting she also join.
BBC NEWS | UK | When Britain and France nearly married

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Old 03-06-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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Screaming? No. There was some truth in what you wrote though. In 1939 when WW2 started, the US army in size stood at 19th, just below Bulgaria and Romania. The massive inflation of size meant the army had few who knew how to run it. The poor performance of its top generals (most were colonels only a few years before being in command of armies) was clear to see.

BTW, the Brits are not nationalistic. Travel around the UK, you will rarely see the union flag flying. Travel around the USA, that flag is constantly in your face.
Nonsense John-Bull. One looks up Nationalism in the dictionary, your picture is there.

Thanks for proving my point.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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and yours are equally uk centric. Stalemate.
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no. I look at facts and analyse. I do not get my history from hollywood and poor history channel documentaries. Americans have been strung a line since ww2 making out they were better than they actually were. Anything against that grain and many react.
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Old 03-06-2019, 03:43 PM
 
Location: London
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Nonsense John-Bull. One looks up Nationalism in the dictionary, your picture is there.

Thanks for proving my point.
Opinionated nonsense. Go by facts, it is easier. Without the British the world would be a different place than what you know it.

Do not go by Hollywood history.
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Old 03-06-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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