The Slaves That Time Forgot

[Trotter67]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

No, I didn't read about Death Ships and Death Walls in Internet.
I lived with a Irish family in Hove and since then I've been curious about "Paddys".
No Internet by then.

Romanticism.

And before people call me Anti-Irish, my Grandfather was Irish.

My grandfather very seldom spoke about the history of the English in Ireland. all he would say was ''you believe in WHAT you WANT to believe.
of course Atrocities happend.
But, leo. if an Irishman told you that in 1790 a group of English soldiers walked into Cork and murdered 500 women and children, would you believe him?

There are many people in Ireland who hate everything England and English, yet there are many more who hold no grudge.
I've been to the South on many occasions (holiday, family visit and Fishing) and have never encountered any hostility, yet i have a broad English Accent and my Surname is of English origin.

What people fail to realise is that the Irish, those in Ireland ,America, (Hove England) who hate Everything England and English, is that they will tell you how the English killed 500,000 the Death ships and the Famine.
But what they wont tell you is that it was an Irishman, the king of Lenister, Who ASKED the Anglo-Normans to help reclaim his crown, and set the seed for the next 900 years.
Some will tell you it was an invasion. some will tell you it was an invite.

Believe in what you want to believe.

[Leovigildo]

Trotter

All "invasions" are engineered to look as "invitations".
Nobody invades a country right away, first they must find the stupidest excuse.
Even Hitler had "excuses" and "invitations".
Even the Romans always had excuses.

[Huckleberry3911948]

very true, irish and chinese. and chinese slavery is with us today-- forced labor for walmart products but much worse ------ today----
1000's of kids and underage women whose flesh is sold on our urban streets daily by cruel slave masters aka pimps the descendants of slaves themselves.
its not all about 1862.
not much has changed. americans are ok with slavery as long as its not them.
signed
an oriental

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by Trotter67

I've been to the South on many occasions (holiday, family visit and Fishing) and have never encountered any hostility, yet i have a broad English Accent and my Surname is of English origin.

Everybody likes a brickie.

Some of the most vehement pro IRA Irish Americans and Irish immigrants I've met were from Kerry, Cork, Mayo and Sligo and were never in Ulster in their lives. While my family, from Ulster and with many close kinsmen there, holds no truck with the IRA and just wants peace and quiet.

An interesting idea is that of an independant Ulster free of both the UK and the Republic. And why not? Though maybe the people of Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan would want to become part of a political Ulster again; during partition those Ulster counties were not incorporated into Northern Ireland lest it have a Catholic majority

[Trotter67]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

Everybody likes a brickie.

HA ha.

I like those better who pay in cash, so i dont have to declare it to the taxman.