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Old 07-24-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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Hello All,

My sisters house floods often in the basement when it rains a lot. It always comes through the floor drain in the basement. I have seen stand pipes in older homes before. I told her I would look into it for her but can't really find anything online about them, like where to buy them, if they sell kits, how high they should be..etc...Any tips out there? Pro's and con's of them? Thank you!!
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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PlumbingSupply.com - Flood Guards For Floor Drains - check valves to prevent flooding

Any local plumbing supply store should have them. Chance are the box stores won't. If you're moderately handy, they aren't very difficult to install, and the price is going to be less than $30 for everything.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:49 PM
 
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? A standpipe is a municipal water tower. - literally, standing pipe. It is used to allow stored water to have pressure. JimRom is right, a ball check valve would be a decent solution.
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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A standpipe is a pipe that sticks out of the drain that is 3 feet tall or so. There is a picture of one in the link that JimRom sent, but that floor guard looks way better! At least its not a pipe sticking out floor! Are those flood guards pretty affective? If the drain is 4" do you get a 3" so it will fit in it? Or do you get a 4"?
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Technically, Harry is right. However, someone started calling the standing drains standpipes, and it stuck.

You get whatever size drain you have. If you have 4", you get 4". The standing pipe is actually a better option, as the check valves can sometimes get clogged with debris and not close properly.

Fair warning, if water is returning through the drain in the basement, it could be signs of trouble with the line. If the line is clogged and the only way for the water to go is into the basement, a heavy rain will flood the basement even with a 3' vertical extension on the drain.
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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Thank you guys! I bought the flood guard 4" "float" model in hopes that it will prevent water from coming through the drain. Any installation tips or tricks or is it pretty straight forward?
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Pretty straight forward, assuming the house is modern construction.
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago - Ukrainian Village
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Default Question on standpipes vs float

My neighborhood in Chicago has problems with sewer backup during extreme downpours (3-4 inches). The city tends to be slow on the trigger to open the locks, probably since they hate to flood Lake Michigan with raw sewage. I lot of the homes were built before 1900 around me and tend not to have sump pumps.

I've been getting lucky over the years but recently lost my furnace due to water damage so am trying to come up with a inexpensive option. I have three drains and a toilet in my basement and was considering capping and removing the toilet. I have my eye on the Flood Guards.

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/how-t...ood-guard.html


The question I have is can I get away with just installing the Float Model without a standpipe on my three drains. I have heard that without the standpipe I may risk damage to my basement due to extreme pressure but cannot seem to find any information on this. Anyone know if you need standpipes in this case or can I get away with a check valve?
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Old 08-27-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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If the problem is the sanitary sewer, something like this would be a more logical solution:
Oatey 4 in. PVC Backwater Valve-43904 - The Home Depot

Placed outside the home, any problem stays outside the home.

If you have ground water and storm drain issues, then what you propose makes sense. Any pressure would be minimal, and a standpipe would only be a belt and suspenders approach in case of a valve failure.
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