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Originally Posted by Pyewackette
Nuts to that.
Situation 1 is avoidable only by the person in question.
Situation 2 is a weird and unusual accident that you can't plan for. You do realize, however, that it would have been faster and easier to shut the water off and remove the toilet? It's held down only by 4 nuts and a wax seal around the flange.
Situation 3 is entirely avoidable by anyone with half a brain.
How 'bout we just dispense with a staircase altogether, eh? Hoist your prisoner up there with a ladder then wall up the opening. That's about as bright as putting in one of those small spiral staircases to "save space".
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What are you on about? I was explaining what happened. They got the person out from behind the toilet (PITA, but doable. Removing the toilet wasn't an option as with the patient bulk stuffed down one side, they couldn't reach the bolt on that side to remove it). The problem came in getting the person from the 5th floor down to the ambulance that required removing a bit of the wall, since they couldn't put them on a typical stretcher and take them down the staircases. When you deal with older diabetics and bariatric patients, there are often unusual circumstances that you have to deal with an engineer a solution for on the spot, as typical emergency response equipment is not designed for that subset of human beings (they are also not really well suited to the typical split level entry staircases, either, as getting from the lower level up and out the front door can often be problematic with a standard stretcher). There have also been instances where a wall (or walls) has to be opened up in a house/apartment on the first floor where the person is too large to get out the bedroom door now. A spiral staircase is just another situation that you have to engineer for.
Whether or not the person should have gotten that large in the first place is a moot point. EMTs have to deal with what's in front of them, not wish they had a time machine to go back and force a person to be smaller.
At any rate, in this house in this thread, the spiral staircase only goes up to a loft, not an entire second floor (of which there is none) so it's again a moot point.
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