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Old 01-01-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ultrarunner View Post
See this a lot with SUV and Trucks... some of which are in the 65 to 85k range and owned... these vehicles simply will not fit in a conventional garage for autos.
There is something to be said about this and that is Building code SHOULD have garages fit for an F350 at the minimum, along with comfortable allowance for ease of entry/exit by a large person.
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Old 01-01-2019, 03:32 PM
 
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And yes, it's bad enough American builders build garages that can only fit small autos comfortably BUT some of them are in cahoots with corrupt Building Code inspectors (disinspectors) that a regular sized car could not even fit iin the driveway.

Que HORROR!!

It sickens me how bad American builders are.


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Old 01-01-2019, 03:47 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Growing up, we never put the car in the garage. When I had my own home and a two car garage, we never put the cars in the garage. In the garage I had a canoe, lawn mower, camper and supplies, tools, etc.

I never minded cleaning the snow off the car anyway. The worst part was shoveling the driveway and chipping away at the ice. Or, if you can afford it, calling someone to plow your driveway, day after day after day after day...

A friend has a carport and a little shed behind it, attached to her house. That would be fine.
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Old 01-01-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I would not buy in an area with an HOA. WHo wants to answer to a bunch of strangers about silly rules all of the time?
The problem is not that you do not like HOA's or that I do like HOA's. The problem is people who buy into HOA neighborhoods and then don't want to follow the rules. Those of us in HOA neighborhoods are perfectly happy to have you live somewhere else and you are happier with that, too. We all win.
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Old 01-01-2019, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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In the majority of the country, there are no attics. My kids and grandkids, have never lived in a home with an attic, and most have never been in one with an attic.

They use factory built trusses to build the home.

https://www.building-a-home-info.com...struction.html

Pre-built roof trusses, are used, not the old fashioned ones with roof supports built by hand. Much more precise building method. And a lot stronger construction.

Much better wind and snow load construction.

Much stronger in earth quake areas.

Much less costly construction.

Very little of the country has attics.

They are not built for having an attic. Trusses for an attic, end up costing considerably more, including a lot more expense for shingles, etc.

Engineered floor joists, are also used in most construction today. Makes a very flat, level floor, more accurate
than the old fashioned 2/12. Floors stay flat, and are stronger.

Didn't realize that this was the case in "the majority of the country". Like those who grow up in places with basements and don't realize that not everywhere has them, every place I have lived in Texas, the houses have had attics, whether floored or not. Most of my buyers, come to think of it, want to know whether the attic is floored for storage. Our own, a house built in the early part of the last century, has an attic that is floored all the way, with plenty of room to stand up in it, and while we could turn it into a room, we use it for storage.

A lot of the newer houses here that are two stories have actual doors into the attic space both for access to HVAC and such for maintenance and repair (and occasionally the hot water heater is up there, which I frankly think is crazy) and for access to stored items.



Now you've got me curious and I'm going to have to research where has attics that can be used for storage and where does not.
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Old 01-01-2019, 05:29 PM
 
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There is something to be said about this and that is Building code SHOULD have garages fit for an F350 at the minimum, along with comfortable allowance for ease of entry/exit by a large person.
The building code is written for safety, not for personal convenience. Using an F-350 as a minimum standard is also absurd. Most people will never own a vehicle that large, and setting the standard that large will add to the cost of every home built, even for people who only want a garage for their Prius, or their plastic lawn furniture.
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Old 01-01-2019, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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The problem is not that you do not like HOA's or that I do like HOA's. The problem is people who buy into HOA neighborhoods and then don't want to follow the rules. Those of us in HOA neighborhoods are perfectly happy to have you live somewhere else and you are happier with that, too. We all win.
Riff-raff always hate HOAs. They want to keep their 1999 Camaro parked on the front un-mowed lawn, with a redneck above-ground pool in the back yard.
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Old 01-01-2019, 06:37 PM
 
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Didn't realize that this was the case in "the majority of the country". Like those who grow up in places with basements and don't realize that not everywhere has them, every place I have lived in Texas, the houses have had attics, whether floored or not. Most of my buyers, come to think of it, want to know whether the attic is floored for storage. Our own, a house built in the early part of the last century, has an attic that is floored all the way, with plenty of room to stand up in it, and while we could turn it into a room, we use it for storage.

A lot of the newer houses here that are two stories have actual doors into the attic space both for access to HVAC and such for maintenance and repair (and occasionally the hot water heater is up there, which I frankly think is crazy) and for access to stored items.



Now you've got me curious and I'm going to have to research where has attics that can be used for storage and where does not.
It’s like my sister’s house. The attic isn’t above, it’s to the side of upstairs bedroom. If it were finished it could have been a playroom.

My attic isn’t floored, can’t stand in it. However, you can open it up, and put the boxes of Christmas stuff up there and rest them on the ceiling joists. Hubby also has crawled around up there to staple up a couple layers of chicken wire to the flow through end venty planks to prevent whatever critters that were running through every night. So, yay, that stopped.

I also think it’s okay to wonder something. And ask about it. By discussing these things, we can discover things about each other, and maybe come up with a solution to something you didn’t know you needed.
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Old 01-01-2019, 07:10 PM
 
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Riff-raff always hate HOAs. They want to keep their 1999 Camaro parked on the front un-mowed lawn, with a redneck above-ground pool in the back yard.
Was waiting for the often-repeated and tired 'car up on blocks', 'waist-high grass' canard people use to defend HOAs.

Most areas with lots smaller than a few acres already have local government (township/city) that have a basic set of rules/codes that prevent properties falling into total disrepair. The difference is, a township isn't going to codify what color your front door has to be or if you are allowed to have a small garden out back.

Bad neighbors will always find a way to annoy, but in many cases, the HOA ends up being way worse than the problem it was created to solve.
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Old 01-01-2019, 07:25 PM
 
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Maybe it is a lease... see this with a lot of high end lease cars... especially around the Hospital with cars owned by Docs...
He bought it in June of 2018. Cash.
My grandma always said “it takes all kinds”.
He seems happy, I guess that’s all that counts.
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