01-30-2012, 12:07 PM
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I read about this in great detail. Apparently, the City of Houston is wanting to attract more tourist and believes that creating an "International" square with high end shopping will attract them. It's supposed to rival the Galleria. I think it is bogus - I mean, look at the surrounding area. You drive 5 blocks to the east and you are in a bad part of town. I think if anything it will turn into another Gulf Gate mall....
Actually. I think it is more of a promenade or park than an international square. It's to honor Houston's sister cities. I see no problem with that. About the surrounding areas, there are great parks and squares that are highly used not far from bad areas in towns around this country and world. But I think those may go away as the property value for the land is going to skyrocket once the rail opens and the stadium is operating. As far as how cheap the stadium look. Well, it's $110 million dollars. Very cheap compared to other stadiums/arenas in other leagues. If you look around MLS, not many other stadiums cost that much more.
Are you expecting some type of Reliant? Because that wasn't going to happen. MLS is still a distant 5th behind the top 4 pro sports in this country. It's even behind college football and basketball. It's growing, but not to the point where you should expect to see state of the art high priced stadiums dotting around the country for their league. I personally think it's a great stadium and could help the area in general if things go right.
01-30-2012, 10:16 PM
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Wow this has to be the cheapest looking stadium I have ever seen. Everyone says it looks nice but seriously, there is NOTHING state of the art in this structure. It's a rudimentary outdoor stadium disguised behind a mesh-looking encasing. Why do we need a new stadium anyways? Couldn't we just revive the Astrodome and call it the Dynamo Dome or something? What a waste of money. . . .
Have you actually seen the stadium or are you basing this off of pictures? I drive by it every now and then, it looks good. Inside is going to be excellent, not a bad seat in the house. We have season tickets and are raring to go.
The Astrodome? Are you serious? MLS is moving towards special purpose soccer stadiums to mirror the growth of the league. Playing in the Astrodome would be a step back. It would be a horrible place to have a soccer stadium, possibly worse than Robertson Stadium was.
Spade: on MLS being a distant 5th, MLS actually had higher average attendance than both the NBA and the NHL during 2011. MLS was 17,782 per game, NBA was 17,323, NHL was 17,132. MLS average attendance will be boosted by the Dynamo move to a bigger stadium.
TV ratings are rapidly increasing, the new TV deal will further that, not to mention English Premier League matches being shown on broadcast TV for the first time this season.
01-30-2012, 11:52 PM
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Wow this has to be the cheapest looking stadium I have ever seen. Everyone says it looks nice but seriously, there is NOTHING state of the art in this structure. It's a rudimentary outdoor stadium disguised behind a mesh-looking encasing. Why do we need a new stadium anyways? Couldn't we just revive the Astrodome and call it the Dynamo Dome or something? What a waste of money. . . .
I can't believe you feel that way.
01-31-2012, 07:02 AM
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Were you trying to google "Definition of "contradiction" " and accidently put it in your post? Because I in no way contradicted myself.
The stadium looks like crap because soccer is not popular
and will look better when soccer is more popular .... WOW, thanks, I learned something new today.
I guess that makes the Sporting Kansas City stadium ugly, too.
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If it makes you feel better about the stadium, Texas Southern University is also going to play football in that stadium (Wow, now it looks better)
I'm just guessing,
but I think the stadium will look better once they actually finish building it.
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01-31-2012, 09:02 AM
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01-31-2012, 10:15 AM
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Well MLS would have higher attendance seeing as how a couple of their teams play in NFL stadiums. Still, I'm glad to see the MLS improving. But how many people watched the MLS Cup compared to the NBA Finals or even Stanley Cup Finals? What were the ratings. I bet if you walked around and asked the average sports fan who played in the MLS Cup, you'd get a blank stare. The sport isn't really that household yet. This is coming from an MLS Fan.
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Well MLS would have higher attendance seeing as how a couple of their teams play in NFL stadiums. Still, I'm glad to see the MLS improving. But how many people watched the MLS Cup compared to the NBA Finals or even Stanley Cup Finals? What were the ratings. I bet if you walked around and asked the average sports fan who played in the MLS Cup, you'd get a blank stare. The sport isn't really that household yet. This is coming from an MLS Fan.
Ok, nobody watches MLS
I never hear people complaining about the popularity of High School football everytime a new stadium is built (What kind of ratings do they get on TV?)
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01-31-2012, 11:31 AM
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Well MLS would have higher attendance seeing as how a couple of their teams play in NFL stadiums. Still, I'm glad to see the MLS improving. But how many people watched the MLS Cup compared to the NBA Finals or even Stanley Cup Finals? What were the ratings. I bet if you walked around and asked the average sports fan who played in the MLS Cup, you'd get a blank stare. The sport isn't really that household yet. This is coming from an MLS Fan.
Doesn't explain 2011 being the first time that it happened. MLS average attendance increased by 7.2% in 2011. Two new teams joined the league in 2011, neither played in an NFL stadium. Vancouver capacity is 22,000 (they averaged 20,412 per game), Portland capacity is 18,627 and they sold out every game.
Three teams currently play in NFL stadiums. DC United - they only drew 15,181 per game in 2011, so that doesn't explain the average attendance figures, New England Revolution - seating is actually limited for their games to 22,385 rather than full NFL capacity, and Sounders FC - seating is limited there as well to 35,700 rather than full NFL capacity.
That aside - Seattle drew an average 38,496 per game in 2011. Put an NBA team or NHL team in a stadium with that capacity and do you think they'd actually fill it? I'd tend to say no.
No doubt, the MLS fan base is smaller than the NBA. However, I'd tend to say the core fan is far more passionate and the match day experience is much more enjoyable. The more fans who are exposed to the environment that you get at Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. the more fans the league will draw. Example from Portland last season:
Timbers FC Home Opener National Anthem - YouTube
The new stadium here will provide the same kind of environment. It will be a fortress for the Dynamo, the place will be rocking.
01-31-2012, 11:43 AM
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No doubt, the MLS fan base is smaller than the NBA.
However, I'd tend to say the core fan is far more passionate and the match day experience is much more enjoyable. The more fans who are exposed to the environment that you get at Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. the more fans the league will draw. Example from Portland last season:
Timbers FC Home Opener National Anthem - YouTube
The new stadium here will provide the same kind of environment. It will be a fortress for the Dynamo, the place will be rocking.
Totally agree.
and yes MLS popularity keeps growing every year
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It would be funny if the teams moves to another city in 5 to 7 yrs the team goes on a long losing streak like the lastros
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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