08-02-2012, 01:32 PM
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Whether it's originating or connecting passengers, I just have trouble seeing IAH having 500 people every day wanting service to Frankfurt ? I mean that's 2 daily 777 flights, right ? Certainly to London, but not Frankfurt.
I can't speak for other companies, but my former energy sector employer had a deal with Star Alliance. As a result, everyone flying to Africa or the Middle East was on the Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt connecting to other destinations. I'd be curious to see what percentage of the Houston to Frankfurt flight is energy related business but I'd suspect it is pretty high, especially in business class.
Would Lufthansa keep up that flight without the United presence? I can't see any reason why not. BA and Air France both have their service to Houston despite not being Star Alliance. Korean Air flies to Dallas which is not a Sky Team hub. Don't need to have a related hub operation to have an international flight if there is enough dedicated traffic on that flight. In the case of Houston to Frankfurt, my gut is that there is enough dedicated traffic.
08-02-2012, 02:18 PM
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Jürgen Siebenrock, vice president of the Americas for Lufthansa , cited the booming oil and gas industry as the key reason behind the German carrier's choice of Houston for A380 service.
"Lufthansa connects more than 35 oil and energy destinations in the world, and we believe the A380 will help us with our product," Siebenrock declared.
"My sales team has promised me that we will retain those high load factors - over 90 percent - in the coming months."
Siebenrock said Lufthansa's relationship with United, its biggest partner in the Star Alliance, also was key and that "without United, we could not connect into this big plane."
World's largest jetliner makes first landing at Bush Intercontinental - Houston Chronicle
So like I said in the title of this thread guys, Parker needs to spread the rep where it's deserved, whereever it's deserved. If she doesn't know who all that includes, obviously the Lufthansa VP does.
08-02-2012, 02:49 PM
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You will have to forgive me if I do not take one Star Alliance member putting in a plug for another as absolute gospel. If the route supports it, then it supports it.
08-02-2012, 03:04 PM
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Jürgen Siebenrock, vice president of the Americas for Lufthansa , cited the booming oil and gas industry as the key reason behind the German carrier's choice of Houston for A380 service.
"Lufthansa connects more than 35 oil and energy destinations in the world, and we believe the A380 will help us with our product," Siebenrock declared.
"My sales team has promised me that we will retain those high load factors - over 90 percent - in the coming months."
Siebenrock said Lufthansa's relationship with United, its biggest partner in the Star Alliance, also was key and that "without United, we could not connect into this big plane."
World's largest jetliner makes first landing at Bush Intercontinental - Houston Chronicle
So like I said in the title of this thread guys, Parker needs to spread the rep where it's deserved, whereever it's deserved. If she doesn't know who all that includes, obviously the Lufthansa VP does.
Maybe she needs to thank exxon, bp, shell, chevron and conoco Phillips first then. Apparently without them (and other energy companies) luftansa wouldn't have flown.
Or maybe...just maybe Houston doesn't owe united anything because they only partnered with luftansa because it was a financial boon for them and had nothing to do with propping up the Houston air market and they'll drop it the second a downturn drops passenger count.
08-02-2012, 03:08 PM
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You will have to forgive me if I do not take one Star Alliance member putting in a plug for another as absolute gospel. If the route supports it, then it supports it.
A Pacific rim city, LA metro is 3 times the size of Houston metro and ATL metro and and it's not surprising that its local population supports A380 service to Asia.
08-02-2012, 05:12 PM
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Maybe she needs to thank exxon, bp, shell, chevron and conoco Phillips first then. Apparently without them (and other energy companies) luftansa wouldn't have flown.
Based on JimBakker488's comments.... Houston would become a ghost town if United were to ever leave Houston.
08-02-2012, 07:29 PM
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Just flew in today on this A380 in first class. Must say it was pretty amazing, but the fod was a little over exotic for me. Not a big fan of caviar or reindeer.
08-02-2012, 08:00 PM
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Wouldnt it make more sense to run a route from AMS to IAH with a 380?
LH isn't a Dutch airline..
Great idea to point it Star Alliance. They really do a lot of those so called code sharing flights.
If it turns out to be unprofitable, they'll just cancel the route.
08-02-2012, 10:03 PM
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The route has been around for a long time, they simply converted it over to A380 service.
08-03-2012, 07:05 AM
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Haven't lived here long enough to know all the history but trying to fly directly out of Houston to anywhere in the world is really difficult. We have to fly to Dallas or Los Angeles. So my question....who is holding Houston back? I do not believe there is not a market. I think maybe our hub airlines have created an artificial market that makes us pay higher prices. I think the Mayor understands this. It shouldn't be so expensive to fly out of Houston....and we should have way more choices to fly to other parts of the world non-stop. We are booming and energy becomes more and more important everyday...so now is the time to bust open the shackles of repressed capitalism at our airports.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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