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Old 03-10-2020, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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Until crime continues to drop in the area, then I can see a true revival of Greenspoint. Remember, Greenspoint is a business district and suburban neighborhood. You gotta go deep into Greenspoint to get the true feel of the area. Ella Blvd., Imperial Valley are the main streets through the area.
I know every nook and cranny in Greenspoint. My Wife works in Greenspoint and I have family that stay pretty close. Not to mention my Wife grew up not to far from GP and some of her family still lives there so we’re there all the time.

Greenspoint is either too suburban, unappealing infrastructure with ditches that easily flood, chain restaurants, too industrial looking. And can’t forget about the City View apartments which would probably need to be tore down if their looking to revitalize the area. But than where are you going to displace those people to? Cranbrook? Cypress Station? Affordable apartments off of 1960?

If anything Greenspoint might be a bigger hub for employment and more companies to move in but being a draw to families, singles, etc. outside of the demographic that already live there? Not seeing right now.
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Old 03-10-2020, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Houston
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My point is that there is a lot of activity in the day because of all these office workers.
Yes, the employment base in the area is somewhat underserved for retail and services within the immediate area (you have to on I-45 to get to much of this kind of stuff, though not too far). It could stand more of what you get in the tunnels downtown - things that serve the office workers exclusively then close in the evening and on weekends.

The hotel guests are also underserved and need more evening and weekend dining / entertainment options, but I don't think they can support much more of that on their own. Unfortunately, the residential base to help support that doesn't exist within the area (the existing residents don't have enough income).
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:04 AM
 
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I bet a million dollar that Greenspoint would drastically change if Houston rail was expanded all the way to IAH and ran through greenspoint.

The increase in commercial activity would be insane.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I bet a million dollar that Greenspoint would drastically change if Houston rail was expanded all the way to IAH and ran through greenspoint.

The increase in commercial activity would be insane.
I'm not sure I see your logic...Greenspoint / NHD has been losing commercial activity (except industrial) to places FURTHER OUT that have WEAKER REGIONAL ACCESS. How is rail to IAH and Downtown going to somehow flip a switch on that? Regarding transit, if anything, Greenspoint needs better commuter service to outer suburbs where the employees in the office buildings live.

You always think rail transit will somehow create an entirely new economic narrative. That is false.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:17 AM
 
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You always think rail transit will somehow create an entirely new economic narrative. That is false.
Yes
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:43 AM
 
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TBH rail transit would be quite beneficial to the low income population there. May as well extend the red line...

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I'm not sure I see your logic...Greenspoint / NHD has been losing commercial activity (except industrial) to places FURTHER OUT that have WEAKER REGIONAL ACCESS. How is rail to IAH and Downtown going to somehow flip a switch on that? Regarding transit, if anything, Greenspoint needs better commuter service to outer suburbs where the employees in the office buildings live.

You always think rail transit will somehow create an entirely new economic narrative. That is false.
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Old 03-11-2020, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Houston
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TBH rail transit would be quite beneficial to the low income population there. May as well extend the red line...
I'm not saying improved transit wouldn't help that population (it would definitely). But I don't see it somehow suddenly causing a lot of high-value development. The area already has very good highway access and access to IAH.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I'm not saying improved transit wouldn't help that population (it would definitely). But I don't see it somehow suddenly causing a lot of high-value development. The area already has very good highway access and access to IAH.
Isn't that precisely what is leading to its resurgence?
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Old 03-11-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Isn't that precisely what is leading to its resurgence?
I wouldn't say it's having a "resurgence." Hopefully the mall will soon be torn down, probably replaced with industrial / warehouse. The former Hines office properties have a new owner that is reinvesting in them, and may be having some success in increasing occupancy, though I've not seen any firm figures to that effect. The Hilton and the Marriott are also getting reinvestment.

So, while these moves indicate some hope for the future on the part of some investors, I'm not sure it qualifies as a "resurgence."
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Old 03-11-2020, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Did you read the Chronicle article?
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