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Old 04-22-2022, 04:10 PM
 
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“You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to cleosmom again.”

100%. I’m Native American and none of this so-called “racist” stuff bothers me. I move on with my life instead of subscribing into the leftist victimhood status. Life is what you make of it. Don’t fall for the victimhood trap. There is ZERO reason to remove statues or rename things. It’s history and culture, use it as a learning tool.
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Old 04-22-2022, 04:13 PM
 
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100%. I’m Native American and none of this so-called “racist” stuff bothers me. I move on with my life instead of subscribing into the leftist victimhood status. Life is what you make of it. Don’t fall for the victimhood trap. There is ZERO reason to remove statues or rename things. It’s history and culture, use it as a learning tool.
Well, you are not from or live in Idaho, so regardless if it bothers you or not is irrelevant.
Maybe ask the Native Americans who's generational family trees are from Idaho and the Northwest and see how they feel.
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Old 04-22-2022, 06:24 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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Mister Torgue has it right. This "Woke" garbage has GOT to end for once and for all. We're all tired of it and the lefties can plant it where the sun don't shine.
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:18 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Well, you are not from or live in Idaho, so regardless if it bothers you or not is irrelevant.
Maybe ask the Native Americans who's generational family trees are from Idaho and the Northwest and see how they feel.
You completely missed my point. I’m Cherokee and Choctaw, both of which have similar situations as do literally every other tribe as that sort of thing was pretty prevalent in history. So this isn’t solely a Idaho issue. But I don’t expect to be able to actually get through to you in a discussion based on your post history so I’ll agree to disagree politely and move on. Have a nice evening.
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Old 04-23-2022, 08:55 AM
 
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The Civil War was a violent uprising against the United States. In other words, an insurrection. Setting huge statues of Confederate soldiers in the center of town squares is not about learning history, it's about exalting the principals who brought war against the United States because they wanted to continue having slaves. Southern culture (and apparently Idaho culture) never got over the loss of that war.

And please, let's not project onto the left the righties' platform of victimhood -- it's the only platform they've got, and the center of TFG's campaign. OMG, the election was stolen!
Okay, I shouldn't have replied to the post with "the news". We are now going off topic.
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Old 04-23-2022, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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Okay, I shouldn't have replied to the post with "the news". We are now going off topic.

Yup! This is the "News" thread for the posting of news articles and links about Idaho. It is not the thread to discuss the sociological customs and behavior of past centuries.
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Old 04-24-2022, 01:41 PM
 
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There goes our favorite beach, Trestle Creek on 200. This really bums me out.
https://bonnercountydailybee.com/new...using-project/
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Old 04-24-2022, 05:30 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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There goes our favorite beach, Trestle Creek on 200. This really bums me out.
https://bonnercountydailybee.com/new...using-project/
Man that’s a bummer.

“The north lake development features a variety of uses, the most notable of which including five luxury homes, 124 boat-slips, and boat storage facilities.”

Ugh.
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Old 04-25-2022, 05:45 AM
 
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There goes our favorite beach, Trestle Creek on 200. This really bums me out.
https://bonnercountydailybee.com/new...using-project/
That is truly sad news.
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:37 AM
 
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To follow up, the true native Idahoans, the Shoshone-Bannock and Coeur d'Alene Tribes, have each asked for removing certain words. Hardly a "woke" or a left/right issue. It is all about respecting those who lived here and named locations before arrival of the white men.

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The name of this Idaho butte is a slur. It and 71 place names statewide to be replaced.


https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/...pdigest_latest

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2022/0...council-input/
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Some people claimed they have family or friends who are Native Americans and who don’t have a problem with the name. That’s not the case with the Shoshone-Bannock Tribes, located on the Fort Hall Reservation in East Idaho.

“Removing the words squaw from all of Idaho place names needs to happen,” Randy’L Teton, public affairs manager for the tribes, wrote in an email last year to the Idaho Statesman.


The S-word originated with the Algonquin-speaking Natives of Southeastern New England. It originally meant “woman,” but became a slur used by white settlers in as early as the 1600s.

In 2007, the U.S. Board on Geographic Names approved removing the S-word from eight place names in North Idaho. Three were on the Coeur d’Alene Reservation, with five outside the reservation but in the tribe’s ancestral territory.

The Coeur d’Alene Tribe asked for the names to be removed.

Native American names would be appropriate for those features now known by the S-word, Just said.

“The Native Americans probably had names for a lot of those features that might have gone back a lot more than the 100-150 years that these have been in existence,” he said.

Idaho saw a surge in population following the Civil War, Just said. Many of the new settlers came from Confederate states.

“They brought some of those names that they were used to and didn’t give much thought to what the Indians called anything,” he said.
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