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Old 01-12-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: People's Republic of California
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Why is she shacking up with an illegal alien in the first place?

What a mess...sounds like neither of them are too bright.

So naturally they procreated.
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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So you folk support the right of the federal government to seize a US citizen and send her to Mexico because they felt like it?

The courts all agree that it should not have happened. The argument is that it is within the discretion of the Border Patrtol to do so.

I would think you would be enraged at the behavior of the feds to a US citizen. But apparently you don't think citizenship is important. If so why are you so enraged over the illegals?
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Court rejects case of US baby sent to Mexico - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/10/2573497/court-rejects-case-of-us-baby.html - broken link)

More on how this happened in the first place.........




http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/us/21bar.html
What the Court rejecting a law suit against a Federal agency?
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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So you folk support the right of the federal government to seize a US citizen and send her to Mexico because they felt like it?

The courts all agree that it should not have happened. The argument is that it is within the discretion of the Border Patrtol to do so.

I would think you would be enraged at the behavior of the feds to a US citizen. But apparently you don't think citizenship is important. If so why are you so enraged over the illegals?
Parental rights. The father, a Mexican citizen has as much rights to that child as does the mother.

And - because of the father's citizenship, that baby is elegible to have Mexican citizenship.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Parental rights. The father, a Mexican citizen has as much rights to that child as does the mother.

And - because of the father's citizenship, that baby is elegible to have Mexican citizenship.
Not rational. The father has no rights superior to the mother and the mother had the right to have the matter heard in a US court. She was deprived of the right by the border patrol.

The courts all pointed out that what was done was wrong. They simply held it was within the border patrols discretion. Therefore no suit.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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So you folk support the right of the federal government to seize a US citizen and send her to Mexico because they felt like it?

The courts all agree that it should not have happened. The argument is that it is within the discretion of the Border Patrtol to do so.

I would think you would be enraged at the behavior of the feds to a US citizen. But apparently you don't think citizenship is important. If so why are you so enraged over the illegals?

The child was in the custody of the father at the time. He has as much right as the mother. He elected to take the child with him. How is that an issue?
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:12 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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The child was in the custody of the father at the time. He has as much right as the mother. He elected to take the child with him. How is that an issue?
The child was in the custody of the US Border Patrol. If the parent was legal and the child not the border patrol can and sometimes does deport the child.

So this is an individual decision.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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The border patrol screwed up by deporting the US born child of a fourth generation American. It was a horrible decision but the Supreme Court didn't hear the case because the Border Patrol has that authority. That's scary.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Pa
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On this one I have to side with the mother. The baby was not going accross town for icecream with dad. The baby was taken to another country. The father may have had joint custody, but that is only half. I wouldn't want my ex taking my children out of the country without my permission or knowledge. Enough children have disappeared that way to justify concern.
The border patrol was wrong in this case. They may have had the right to do it, but that doesn't always make it right to do it.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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The child was in the custody of the US Border Patrol. If the parent was legal and the child not the border patrol can and sometimes does deport the child.

So this is an individual decision.

Good. Illegal aliens should be deported.
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