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Old 05-16-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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I always carry my ID...all 3 of them...no matter what. I'd hate to get in a very bad car accident for example and not be able to be ID'd. Might sound silly but I've seen it happen before.

And if law enforcement wants to look at them, go ahead.
Me too.

I even carry my insurance card with me at all times.

Everyone carries some sort of ID.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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OK so if a US police officer asked you for your legal documents...what are you going to show them?


Whats a "legal Document"?
Any real american citizen has many ways to prove he is legal. We are in the system. Even if I leave my DL at home the cop can pull up a picture of me in seconds.....Illegals simply have no history of being here and can be easily caught.Even with a SS number there is information that ONLY the person who has that number can answer......We need biometric IDs and that would solve the issue once and for all. No one will have to carry around "papers" as the pro illegals want to make us believe.
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I've traveled in Mexico and they do the same. Go through some of their highway checkpoints some time, you are expected to abide by their laws.
This is really over-simplifying checkpoints in Mexico. The most common checkpoints are run by the military - They search primarily for drugs going north, and weapons going south. Other agencies (the Mexican equivalent of the DEA is what I've mostly seen) may sometimes set up at the casetas (toll-booths on the more developed highways), but it uncommon.

The important thing to remember is only the Federales have control of the highways - If you see any other markings on vehicles or officers set up on the highway, be careful...

The travel document for foreigners to go to the interior of Mexico (I have to have one myself, despite my marriage) is called an "FMT". Under 7 days, it is free of charge, with a passport it will generally be valid for 180 days, at a cost of about $22 USD. During some time in your trip, you visit any of the major banks, and have them stamp the FMT that you have paid.

If you have an expired FMT you can be fined, or they may not let you get another. They will also refuse to reissue an FMT immediately after having one returned much of the time (you can use another office if possible, or wait until the next day). In ALL of my travels in Mexico, I have never been asked for my FMT outside the immigration offices.

The military doesn't check for them. Federales don't check for them, or any municipal police. Only the IMN agency offices are involved in enforcing their use.

An interesting aside is that my wife needed one on our last trip - The vehicle was registered in her name in the U.S., and they wanted an FMT to line up with the vehicle permit. She had to fill one out as her Legal Permanent Resident status here, and was not treated as a Mexican citizen for the purpose of the form.

Are you saying you are willing to let someone have free range of the United States for six months by paying for a $22 permit?...
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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The police will ask you on the street for your legal documents and if you don't have them they will send you on a plane back to your country.

Thats not racist.
Or they give them temporary but legal travel documents and put them on a train to France
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:52 PM
 
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Or they give them temporary but legal travel documents and put them on a train to France
Nope, France wised up when all those illegals started flooding Italy and Italy was giving them a pass to allow them to travel anywhere in the EU....

France halted all migrant trains coming across their border from Italy.

Follow Italy's example? We have been the world's leader in allowing illegal aliens into America.....

Sounds more like they are following our example.... At least Italy ships them out to other EU countries, America doesn't have that luxury....
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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Is the reduction in illegal aliens worth the intrusion? I don't think so. But I do support unannounced workplace raids, combined with fines on the employers who facilitate illegal immigration.
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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Nope, France wised up when all those illegals started flooding Italy and Italy was giving them a pass to allow them to travel anywhere in the EU....

France halted all migrant trains coming across their border from Italy.

Follow Italy's example? We have been the world's leader in allowing illegal aliens into America.....

Sounds more like they are following our example.... At least Italy ships them out to other EU countries, America doesn't have that luxury....
Not much of a competition really. What other country could allow them into America?
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Not much of a competition really. What other country could allow them into America?
LOL true...but Canada is right next door and they aren't being invaded like we are....are they?
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:31 PM
 
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Is the reduction in illegal aliens worth the intrusion? I don't think so. But I do support unannounced workplace raids, combined with fines on the employers who facilitate illegal immigration.
I say it is.

Consider the cost to America, in education, medical fees, car insurance rates, crime rates, changing every bloomin' thing to Spanish, interpreters, etc.

How can we afford the intrusion?
How about, how can we not?
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:03 PM
 
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Is the reduction in illegal aliens worth the intrusion? I don't think so. But I do support unannounced workplace raids, combined with fines on the employers who facilitate illegal immigration.
If it saves many lives and billions of dollars, then why not?
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