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He has always been a U.S. citizen (born in the United States, and legally adopted by a U.S. citizen couple). We depend on our society to fully observe our rights and citizenship status even when we cannot ourselves (we aren't deporting Alzheimer patients wandering on the streets after all). The system failed Mark Lyttle, and the compensation (which also should have had a higher punitive amount) was for that.
The difference is that most Alzheimer patients wouldn't claim they are from Mexico either. Mistakes are made. Get over it. He got his compensation.
He has always been a U.S. citizen (born in the United States, and legally adopted by a U.S. citizen couple). We depend on our society to fully observe our rights and citizenship status even when we cannot ourselves (we aren't deporting Alzheimer patients wandering on the streets after all). The system failed Mark Lyttle, and the compensation (which also should have had a higher punitive amount) was for that.
Why a higher punitive amount? It still comes down to him telling the agents he was from Mexico. So he got a trip to Mexico - and nothing bad happened to him there.
If he was deported to Canada would people be as up in arms over it? Or do I sense a little racism, a needless fear of someone finding themselves in Mexico?
As far as Alzheimers patients --- here were I live, there is a very strong tendency for them to deport themselves to Mexico. Every month or so there is a news story about a missing dementia patient. They're either found dead of dehydration in the desert or safe and sound in Juarez.
A family's desperate search to find their loved one came to an end Tuesday. The 77-year-old man was spotted in a Juarez nursing home and brought back across the border, according to family who spoke exclusively to KFOX 14.
87- year-old Isidro Villanueva dissapeared yesterday morning from his home is West El Paso.
Police say he was found safe Wednesday afternoon at a church in Juarez.
Why a higher punitive amount? It still comes down to him telling the agents he was from Mexico. So he got a trip to Mexico - and nothing bad happened to him there...
Do you understand what the punitive portion of a judgement is for?...
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Originally Posted by malamute
...If he was deported to Canada would people be as up in arms over it? Or do I sense a little racism, a needless fear of someone finding themselves in Mexico?
Do you understand what the punitive portion of a judgement is for?...
Sense of a little racism by who?...
Oh, I have a little feeling that if someone claimed to be here illegally from Canada and was then deported to Canada, you and others wouldn't be wringing your hands and whining about it.
The guy made a false claim, got sent to Mexico and nothing bad happened to him there and now he's back. Big deal.
Oh, I have a little feeling that if someone claimed to be here illegally from Canada and was then deported to Canada, you and others wouldn't be wringing your hands and whining about it.
The guy made a false claim, got sent to Mexico and nothing bad happened to him there and now he's back. Big deal.
You didn't read the whole story. Mark had to travel through Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala. Despite getting a U.S. passport and other documents at the U.S. Consulate in Guatemala, ICE held him for several days when he flew back to Atlanta, and tried to deport him again.
If the State Department and FBI can determine his U.S. citizenship so quickly, how come ICE couldn't do it after holding him in custody for months?...
You didn't read the whole story. Mark had to travel through Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala. Despite getting a U.S. passport and other documents at the U.S. Consulate in Guatemala, ICE held him for several days when he flew back to Atlanta, and tried to deport him again.
If the State Department and FBI can determine his U.S. citizenship so quickly, how come ICE couldn't do it after holding him in custody for months?...
Because it is just one giant conspiracy/discrimination against those of Mexican ancestry in spite of the fact that even though many of their illegal counterparts are being given a pass on our immigration laws by our government?
Because it is just one giant conspiracy/discrimination against those of Mexican ancestry in spite of the fact that even though many of their illegal counterparts are being given a pass on our immigration laws by our government?
You didn't read the whole story. Mark had to travel through Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala. Despite getting a U.S. passport and other documents at the U.S. Consulate in Guatemala, ICE held him for several days when he flew back to Atlanta, and tried to deport him again.
If the State Department and FBI can determine his U.S. citizenship so quickly, how come ICE couldn't do it after holding him in custody for months?...
Then why did he tell them he was a Mexican? What was the point in doing that?
I've been stopped and questioned by border agents 3 different times and when asked my citizenship, I did not choose to lie because for one what would be the point in lying unless you were trying to get yourself deported?
I'm quite sure if I would have told agents I was a Mexican, or Canadian, or German, or Italian, that I could have been questioned further and deported. Only an idiot would think it was a cute time to lie or that there are no consequences for claiming foreign citizenship.
He told them he was. Why would they suspect he was lying?
In fact some Mexicans (and others) will lie and claim US citizenship. It's like if you're pulled over by the police because a crime was committed by someone in a similar vehicle and you claim you just robbed people.
This guy wasn't some innocent guy who just got deported, he brought it on himself.
As for traveling in Mexico and Guatemala and Honduras -- I've traveled all over Mexico and always wanted to travel to Central America --- I suspect this guy wanted the adventure because even if he was deported to Mexico because he claimed to be Mexican, that doesn't explain why we went further south.
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