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Old 01-06-2013, 08:57 PM
 
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How does he get a bank loan when he isn't legal? Doesn't anyone question that? If it was questioned he would probably have to provide all the forged documents he used to get the loan.
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That's what I was thinking too. But I've never bought a house (yet) so I don't know the whole procedure to this.
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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Well Salvador, while you were busy making a better life for your family while breaking the law to do so you have caused American families to suffer because that job you are holding could have been one an American could have held to feed his family and Americans have been footing the bill for you and your families social costs all these years. But you come first, right? The American family be damned!

Yeah, your family is surely learning respect for our laws since you have set such a good example at doing so.
The thread should end right here because there is nothing left to say about the subject, at least anything that would be pertinent. I am so tired of the whining about "I came here for a better life"......
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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He doesn't pay taxes -- he already knows he gets refunds for all those kids he has, he isn't stupid enough to declare 1 exemption, he can declare as many exemptions as he likes in order to have no FICA taxes withheld. This is well-known among the illegals who steal social security numbers to take good paying jobs Americans would want. Declare 8 exemptions on the W-4 and no FICA is withheld.

What this whiner is complaining about is that he can't get the child tax credits and EITC refund because he's here illegally and obviously commintting felony document fraud.
that is not exactly true. The exemptions on his W-4 only applies to FIT, not SS or medicare.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: On the East Coast
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You know, I'm just sick and tired of all these child tax credits for everybody. It should be a rule that NO ONE gets back a penny more from the government that they paid in. You paid ZERO in federal income taxes from your paycheck? Then you get ZERO back from the federal government on your 1040. Why should people get paid for having kids they can't afford? Oh, I forgot, that happens with welfare, too. Have more kids, get more money!

And as far as the illegals paying SS and Medicare taxes......well, they get back hundreds of times that in free health care, free education for their brats, free meals in school for their brats (and some schools are serving breakfast, lunch AND dinner as well as sending home food for the weekends!) and many other services that I pay for. I'm just totally sick of it all. I'm tired of going into a store and having to turn around boxes because the illegals they had stocking the shelves put the Spanish side out (Lowe's and Home Depot especially). I'm sick of not being able to tell the people who handle my yard work about the mess they are making out of it because they can't understand English....a company THAT THE HOA HIRED (not me!!) and I don't have a choice in it. I'm sick of not being able to apply for at least 50% of the jobs in my area I have experience for, because they require bi-lingual. I'm sick of going to places and feel like I'm in another country because everybody around me is speaking Spanish. I'm not sure I even want to be around in another 10-15 years because I just DO NOT like where this country is headed. To HE** in a handbasket, that's where.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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You know, I'm just sick and tired of all these child tax credits for everybody. It should be a rule that NO ONE gets back a penny more from the government that they paid in. You paid ZERO in federal income taxes from your paycheck? Then you get ZERO back from the federal government on your 1040. Why should people get paid for having kids they can't afford? Oh, I forgot, that happens with welfare, too. Have more kids, get more money!

And as far as the illegals paying SS and Medicare taxes......well, they get back hundreds of times that in free health care, free education for their brats, free meals in school for their brats (and some schools are serving breakfast, lunch AND dinner as well as sending home food for the weekends!) and many other services that I pay for. I'm just totally sick of it all. I'm tired of going into a store and having to turn around boxes because the illegals they had stocking the shelves put the Spanish side out (Lowe's and Home Depot especially). I'm sick of not being able to tell the people who handle my yard work about the mess they are making out of it because they can't understand English....a company THAT THE HOA HIRED (not me!!) and I don't have a choice in it. I'm sick of not being able to apply for at least 50% of the jobs in my area I have experience for, because they require bi-lingual. I'm sick of going to places and feel like I'm in another country because everybody around me is speaking Spanish. I'm not sure I even want to be around in another 10-15 years because I just DO NOT like where this country is headed. To HE** in a handbasket, that's where.
I agree with most of your points. The exceptions are calling kids brats and "assuming" that at the grocery store it is illegal immigrants stocking the shelves.
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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When he said he is like everyone else, he lost me. No Sir, every person who lives in this Country, have not broken any laws to get here.

Very hypocritical, you cannot be like everyone who lives here, but break the laws to get here. If these people really respect everything America is, and truly want to make a better life for their familes.

Wouldn't ya think, they would want to do it legally, the way our ancestors did, with pride. Respect for this Country, means you want to become a legal citizen.
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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When he said he is like everyone else, he lost me. No Sir, every person who lives in this Country, have not broken any laws to get here.

Very hypocritical, you cannot be like everyone who lives here, but break the laws to get here. If these people really respect everything America is, and truly want to make a better life for their familes.

Wouldn't ya think, they would want to do it legally, the way our ancestors did, with pride. Respect for this Country, means you want to become a legal citizen.
The thing is that we cannot allow everyone in here that wants to come here. That is why we have quotas. Many know they wouldn't fall within those quotas or don't want to wait or pay the applicable fees so they come here illegally anyway. That has got to stop. Yes, there is a legal way to come here but if you are rejected then you just have to accept that and stay in your homeland.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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You know, I'm just sick and tired of all these child tax credits for everybody. It should be a rule that NO ONE gets back a penny more from the government that they paid in. You paid ZERO in federal income taxes from your paycheck? Then you get ZERO back from the federal government on your 1040. Why should people get paid for having kids they can't afford? Oh, I forgot, that happens with welfare, too. Have more kids, get more money!

And as far as the illegals paying SS and Medicare taxes......well, they get back hundreds of times that in free health care, free education for their brats, free meals in school for their brats (and some schools are serving breakfast, lunch AND dinner as well as sending home food for the weekends!) and many other services that I pay for. I'm just totally sick of it all. I'm tired of going into a store and having to turn around boxes because the illegals they had stocking the shelves put the Spanish side out (Lowe's and Home Depot especially). I'm sick of not being able to tell the people who handle my yard work about the mess they are making out of it because they can't understand English....a company THAT THE HOA HIRED (not me!!) and I don't have a choice in it. I'm sick of not being able to apply for at least 50% of the jobs in my area I have experience for, because they require bi-lingual. I'm sick of going to places and feel like I'm in another country because everybody around me is speaking Spanish. I'm not sure I even want to be around in another 10-15 years because I just DO NOT like where this country is headed. To HE** in a handbasket, that's where.
You pretty much nailed it. I contacted HR in my company about possibly being transferred to our office in Canada. They're still "thinking about it." Funny part is if I wanted to move to Zurich I would probably already be packing my bags, but no. Canada. That's where I want to go. This country is going to hell and nobody in power even pretends to care about actual Americans anymore. I feel like an unwelcome foreigner in my own country. It's like having a squatter in your house that you can't get rid of and law enforcement just looks at you and shrugs.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You pretty much nailed it. I contacted HR in my company about possibly being transferred to our office in Canada. They're still "thinking about it." Funny part is if I wanted to move to Zurich I would probably already be packing my bags, but no. Canada. That's where I want to go. This country is going to hell and nobody in power even pretends to care about actual Americans anymore. I feel like an unwelcome foreigner in my own country. It's like having a squatter in your house that you can't get rid of and law enforcement just looks at you and shrugs.
Exactly! We have been overrun by illegal aliens who are draining this country dry. But, rather than enforcing our laws, which would force them to leave, our stupid, spineless, pandering so-called leaders are rewarding them, and inviting even more to come. It's beyond belief.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...Wouldn't ya think, they would want to do it legally, the way our ancestors did, with pride. Respect for this Country, means you want to become a legal citizen.
Why do you phrase the characteristic of "pride" for those that have come to the United States in the past? Didn't people come here for their own gain (or had no ability to make that decision for themselves)? Be rational that it wasn't some noble motive that automatically takes them above that level.
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