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The last time the liberals (in both parties) tried this, they got a roaring "NO!" from the American people. So many called and wrote to their Congressmen that they had to drop their attempt to gin up a "reform" bill that would have eventually granted amnesty to the 15-million-plus illegal aliens who have crossed our borders against our current laws.
Apparently the liberals didn't take the hint. They are trying it again. Various leftists (in both parties) have announced that they will try to put together yet another "immigration reform" bill... as though there were something wrong with our present laws.
None of these people have ever pinpointed what it is they don't like about our present laws. Our laws allow:
* It's illegal for foreigners to come into the country without a visa.
* It's illegal for them to stay in the country longer than specified on their visa or resident-alien card.
* Foreigners who do any of the above, are to be deported unless unusual circumstances (political asylum, etc.) can be established.
* It's illegal for foreigners in this country to get paying jobs unless their immigration papers permit it.
* Foreigners can come here to work for a specified period if the employer can show that no domestic workers can or will take the job ("Guest Worker Program").
* Foreign spouses and/or immediate family members of American citizens can come into the country.
* Several other categories of immigration exist, to let foreigners immigrate.
* Congress decided many decades ago, that immigration into the U.S. must be limited, so that assimilation can take place and the immigrants can learn American ways, language etc.; and so that communities won't simply be overwhelmed and transformed into foreign colonies of the country the immigrants came from.
What about thse present rules, do the liberals (in both parties) not like? Why do they keep insisting these rules need some kind of "reform"?
The problem has been, of course, not the rules. It's been the enforcement of the rules. The Fed govt has been flatly failing in their Constitutional duty to enforce these rules. One result of this, is that literally millions of foreigners ("aliens") have entered the country illegally, with 15 million (or more) remaining to this day. They take jobs Americans need, work "off the books" without paying taxes, overload schools with their children till the schools can no longer provide decent education, overwhelm hospital emergency rooms until the hospitals can no longer provide good emergency treatment to those who need it, even to the point where the hospitals must close due to finanical insolvency; they bring in diseases that had formerly been eradicated in the U.S., etc. etc.
But why do the liberals keep jumping to the conclusion that it's "the Rules" that need changing, rather than the enforcement of those rules?
There is the additional problem of the huge numbers of illegal aliens within our borders. But if our present laws are enforced (for a change), then deporting the ones who came to the attention of law enforcement, would finally have an effect, as they won't be able to just turn around and walk back into the U.S.
Enforcing our present laws will take some resources, but far fewer than are presently being expended on various crackpot schemes. Four areas have to be worked on and fulfilled:
1.) Build a GOOD fence or wall along the entire border. Other countries have done this, with good results. No such wall is perfectly impenetrable. but a good one will reduce those who get through, to a small trickle instead of the present flood, and free up ICE personnel to concentrate on the relative few who do get through.
2.) Patrol the border adequately. This is necessary to keep people from cutting through etc. The longer time they need to cut through, must be denied to them. This will require hiring a LOT more border patrol personnel and providing support for them.
3.) Provide Federal personnel to work with state and local police, to quickly deport illegal aliens who come to the attention of the police in their normal duties (giving traffic tickets, answering calls for domestic violence, burglary, etc.)
4.) Provide criminal penalties for companies who knowingly hire illegal aliens, for hiring mangers, personnel managers, and even CEOs.
Some of these things are starting to be done. But "starting" isn't nearly enough. All four must be done and done WELL. If any one of them is not, then the whole thing will break down. But doing all four, is not extraordinarily difficult, and CAN be done. And the Federal government is Constitutionally REQUIRED to do them.
No "reform" of our present laws is needed.
In fact, the last time it was tried, it quickly became clear that the liberals (in both parties) were merely playing games, trying to buy the votes of the voting friends of the illegal aliens by offering them amnesty in various disguises (most often referred to as a "path to citizenship"), as though they didn't already have such a path open to them within the necessary restrictions defined by Congress.
Next time you hear about "immigration reform", keep in mind that no reform is needed... in fact, the next set of rules is no more likely to be obeyed by our politicians than the present ones are. It is far more likely that duplicitous politicians are trying once again, to buy more votes at the expense of our already-overrun communities, hospital, and schools.
Yes --- even if there is some amnesty for the illegals themselves, there should be absolutely no amnesty for those who brought them in, those who employed them. Where are the big fines, penalties, and back taxes on these corrupt evil employers of illegals?
If my employer had to pay into social security, and pay workman's compensation and income taxes, then why should some dishonest employer be off the hook for this? Every last employer of these illegals being given their amnesty should be required to pay all back taxes - especially social security - on them, and pay the equivalent that all legal employers had to do all that time. Plus they should be required to pay at least as much as the employers who legally provided a work visa for their legal immigrants and pay for the bi-national complete background checks and at a $10,000 or more fine per year for each illegal they employed.
The last time the liberals (in both parties) tried this, they got a roaring "NO!" from the American people. So many called and wrote to their Congressmen that they had to drop their attempt to gin up a "reform" bill that would have eventually granted amnesty to the 15-million-plus illegal aliens who have crossed our borders against our current laws.
Apparently the liberals didn't take the hint. They are trying it again. Various leftists (in both parties) have announced that they will try to put together yet another "immigration reform" bill... as though there were something wrong with our present laws.
None of these people have ever pinpointed what it is they don't like about our present laws. Our laws allow:
* It's illegal for foreigners to come into the country without a visa.
* It's illegal for them to stay in the country longer than specified on their visa or resident-alien card.
* Foreigners who do any of the above, are to be deported unless unusual circumstances (political asylum, etc.) can be established.
* It's illegal for foreigners in this country to get paying jobs unless their immigration papers permit it.
* Foreigners can come here to work for a specified period if the employer can show that no domestic workers can or will take the job ("Guest Worker Program").
* Foreign spouses and/or immediate family members of American citizens can come into the country.
* Several other categories of immigration exist, to let foreigners immigrate.
* Congress decided many decades ago, that immigration into the U.S. must be limited, so that assimilation can take place and the immigrants can learn American ways, language etc.; and so that communities won't simply be overwhelmed and transformed into foreign colonies of the country the immigrants came from.
What about thse present rules, do the liberals (in both parties) not like? Why do they keep insisting these rules need some kind of "reform"?
The problem has been, of course, not the rules. It's been the enforcement of the rules. The Fed govt has been flatly failing in their Constitutional duty to enforce these rules. One result of this, is that literally millions of foreigners ("aliens") have entered the country illegally, with 15 million (or more) remaining to this day. They take jobs Americans need, work "off the books" without paying taxes, overload schools with their children till the schools can no longer provide decent education, overwhelm hospital emergency rooms until the hospitals can no longer provide good emergency treatment to those who need it, even to the point where the hospitals must close due to finanical insolvency; they bring in diseases that had formerly been eradicated in the U.S., etc. etc.
But why do the liberals keep jumping to the conclusion that it's "the Rules" that need changing, rather than the enforcement of those rules?
There is the additional problem of the huge numbers of illegal aliens within our borders. But if our present laws are enforced (for a change), then deporting the ones who came to the attention of law enforcement, would finally have an effect, as they won't be able to just turn around and walk back into the U.S.
Enforcing our present laws will take some resources, but far fewer than are presently being expended on various crackpot schemes. Four areas have to be worked on and fulfilled:
1.) Build a GOOD fence or wall along the entire border. Other countries have done this, with good results. No such wall is perfectly impenetrable. but a good one will reduce those who get through, to a small trickle instead of the present flood, and free up ICE personnel to concentrate on the relative few who do get through.
2.) Patrol the border adequately. This is necessary to keep people from cutting through etc. The longer time they need to cut through, must be denied to them. This will require hiring a LOT more border patrol personnel and providing support for them.
3.) Provide Federal personnel to work with state and local police, to quickly deport illegal aliens who come to the attention of the police in their normal duties (giving traffic tickets, answering calls for domestic violence, burglary, etc.)
4.) Provide criminal penalties for companies who knowingly hire illegal aliens, for hiring mangers, personnel managers, and even CEOs.
Some of these things are starting to be done. But "starting" isn't nearly enough. All four must be done and done WELL. If any one of them is not, then the whole thing will break down. But doing all four, is not extraordinarily difficult, and CAN be done. And the Federal government is Constitutionally REQUIRED to do them.
No "reform" of our present laws is needed.
In fact, the last time it was tried, it quickly became clear that the liberals (in both parties) were merely playing games, trying to buy the votes of the voting friends of the illegal aliens by offering them amnesty in various disguises (most often referred to as a "path to citizenship"), as though they didn't already have such a path open to them within the necessary restrictions defined by Congress.
Next time you hear about "immigration reform", keep in mind that no reform is needed... in fact, the next set of rules is no more likely to be obeyed by our politicians than the present ones are. It is far more likely that duplicitous politicians are trying once again, to buy more votes at the expense of our already-overrun communities, hospital, and schools.
Didn't you copy/paste these mistaken notions before?...
Stop blaming liberals, I get so freaking sick of that.
Bush pushed for the DREAM Act too, remember?
Amen!!!!! Please stop this. Most liberals I know actually do not support amnesty or the status quo of our little underground slave labor workforce. It was Reagan who gave the amnesty that led to the 20-30 million we have now and subsequent Republican administrations who ignored the issue to continue to supply business with the cheap labor.
It is only now that they realize that they're about to get shot in the [censored] with their own gun that they're suddenly against another amnesty, at least some Republicans are. Others are laboring under the dillusion that these people will vote for them if they pander enough. Isn't going to happen. All Republicans should suck it up and recognize that if their constituants want to do business in the U.S., they need to comply with the law. Pretty simple stuff, and the ethical way to conduct oneself.
Sen. Hatch (R-Utah) will be coming on-board, as a co-sponsor of the Senate "Gang of 8" legislative proposal. When that happens, I'd like to see the faces of the RWNJs when they attempt to figure-out how to challenge his increasingly loud statements that we need immigration reform.
Sen. Hatch (R-Utah) will be coming on-board, as a co-sponsor of the Senate "Gang of 8" legislative proposal. When that happens, I'd like to see the faces of the RWNJs when they attempt to figure-out how to challenge his increasingly loud statements that we need immigration reform.
Democratic and Republican members of the Gang of Eight split Monday over a proposal to block millions of immigrants from receiving earned income tax credits, a major cash assistance program.
Sens. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) broke with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) over the issue of giving federal payments to illegal immigrants who would receive temporary legal status under the legislation.
Graham and Flake supported an amendment sponsored by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) to deny earned income tax credits (EITC) to people with Registered Provisional Immigrant Status (RPI).
During the last legislative session in Texas e-verify had the votes to pass. Just a few hours before the vote two of the largest employers of illegals in the state went to visit the Capital. The bill was graveyard dead in a matter of minutes. I never thought that one of the largest contributors to Republicans in the country was a liberal. Look up Bob Perry. He'd be rising from the grave to haunt anybody who called him a liberal.
Sen. Hatch (R-Utah) will be coming on-board, as a co-sponsor of the Senate "Gang of 8" legislative proposal. When that happens, I'd like to see the faces of the RWNJs when they attempt to figure-out how to challenge his increasingly loud statements that we need immigration reform.
Is calling conservatives "nut jobs" really necessary just because they don't agree with your agenda? There are still plenty of loud voices and saner heads in the House.
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