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Old 08-14-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The big amnesty bill seems to be losing steam in the WH and in the MSM.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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I know a guy who's a cop in an affluent Dallas suburb, and he was required to learn rudimentary Spanish.
Yes, from what I understand there are some firefighters that have been required to learn Spanish also. Yet we are told that Hispanics are assimilating into our country. Well learning English is a part of that assimilation process, isn't it?
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Yes, from what I understand there are some firefighters that have been required to learn Spanish also. Yet we are told that Hispanics are assimilating into our country. Well learning English is a part of that assimilation process, isn't it?
Apparently not around here!
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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Apparently not around here!
Here is just one example. I received many hits for different areas of the U.S. requiring the same thing. The claim is that the Hispanic population is growing. Hmm, wouldn't have anything to do with illegal immigration, would it? Naw. If it doesn't then why do so many Hispanics not know English?

Indy firefighter recruits need to learn Spanish
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Fire,ambulance, police..they all are encountering more non English speaking people.

Cannot provide help if you cannot understand what they are saying.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:00 PM
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I know a guy who's a cop in an affluent Dallas suburb, and he was required to learn rudimentary Spanish.
Most police and fire departments in major cities prefer their employees to be able to speak and understand basic Spanish. Several agencies in my area actually will pay for classes and after completion the employee's pay goes up due to their new job skills. Where I live, it would be almost impossible to do the job if you couldn't communicate at a basic level in Spanish.

Nativist objections aside, the simple answer is for all public schools nationwide to institute a true bilingual curriculum for all students. The days of the United States being a monolingual English-only society are over and institutions like schools and law enforcement should adapt to the changing needs of the people they serve. The younger generations would grow up bilingual and English only speakers would go the way of the dinosaur.

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Old 08-14-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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Most police and fire departments in major cities prefer their employees to be able to speak and understand basic Spanish. Several agencies in my area actually will pay for classes and after completion the employee's pay goes up due to their new job skills. Where I live, it would be almost impossible to do the job if you couldn't communicate at a basic level in Spanish.

Nativist objections aside, the simple answer is for all public schools nationwide to institute a true bilingual curriculum for all students. The days of the United States being a monolingual English-only society are over and institutions like schools and law enforcement should adapt to the changing needs of the people they serve. The younger generations would grow up bilingual and English only speakers would go the way of the dinosaur.
Uh; it'd make more sense to have LatAm kids learn English than Spanish for American kids in the US. English is the language of money and power and Spanish; especially "Mexican" Spanish is the language of the barrio here in the US. Too; the birthrate of "Hispanic" kids is heading down to under replacement level, even in LatAm.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Most police and fire departments in major cities prefer their employees to be able to speak and understand basic Spanish. Several agencies in my area actually will pay for classes and after completion the employee's pay goes up due to their new job skills. Where I live, it would be almost impossible to do the job if you couldn't communicate at a basic level in Spanish.

Nativist objections aside, the simple answer is for all public schools nationwide to institute a true bilingual curriculum for all students. The days of the United States being a monolingual English-only society are over and institutions like schools and law enforcement should adapt to the changing needs of the people they serve. The younger generations would grow up bilingual and English only speakers would go the way of the dinosaur.
They are not over, we just need to stand firm in our conviction that if you live in a nation, learn the language.
When men cannot communicate their thoughts to each other, simply because of difference of language, all the similarity of their common human nature is of no avail to unite them in fellowship. Alexis de Tocqueville made the same point "language is perhaps the strongest, perhaps most enduring link which unites men".

Why should we have to learn another language? Is Mexico teaching their kids to speak English? What is the benefit of being a bilingual nation? none.. a common language unites us in a common culture.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Most police and fire departments in major cities prefer their employees to be able to speak and understand basic Spanish. Several agencies in my area actually will pay for classes and after completion the employee's pay goes up due to their new job skills. Where I live, it would be almost impossible to do the job if you couldn't communicate at a basic level in Spanish.

Nativist objections aside, the simple answer is for all public schools nationwide to institute a true bilingual curriculum for all students. The days of the United States being a monolingual English-only society are over and institutions like schools and law enforcement should adapt to the changing needs of the people they serve. The younger generations would grow up bilingual and English only speakers would go the way of the dinosaur.
Bilingual right now is only K-5.
We have issues here in Texas when Spanish speaking students enter in 6th grade and above.
For them we only have ESL/ELL.

I had a new 8th grader last year for the last 2 weeks of school that spoke no English.
Since it was so close to the end of school I was told just to let him sit in the back with one or two students translating for him. Had no clue if they translated though because the quadratic equation usually doesn't elicit lots of giggles and laughter

Basically they told me to babysit him and they will push the problem to high school to be dealt with.

It is a valid issue. We have more older students coming here that do not speak English or not very well.
It's a matter of time before we bring bilingual to 6-12.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:37 PM
 
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Why should English go the way of the dinosaur in this country? Why not Spanish instead? We are not a Hispanic nation in identity and never were. English has always been our de facto national language. As I said, the reason Spanish is required today is because of the large number of illegal alien Spanish speakers here. We should learn Spanish to accommodate them? I don't think so!

These same people pushing Spanish in this country are the same ones who claim that Hispanics are assimilating in our country. I wish they would make up their minds which way it is.
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